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Summary: People know Johanna Rothman as the “Pragmatic Manager.” She provides frank advice for your tough problems helping leaders and managers do reasonable things that work. I am a big fan of Johanna's owning three of her books and adding a fourth, Agile and Lean Program Management: Scaling Collaboration Across the Organization. This is a short take on the definition of some terms that came from the interview Business901 iTunes Store Mobile Version New Accessibility for the Business901 Podcast