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Summary: Kim Hill talks to Dr Ian Gawler, one of Australia's most experienced authorities on mind-body medicine and meditation. He and his wife, Dr Ruth Gawler, are visiting New Zealand to run a meditation course in the Coromandel and a residential programme in Wanaka for people affected by cancer.