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Summary: To our delight, Steve Klabnik joins us on the second Gaslight podcast. We learned about his passion for text-based adventure games at a young age and why "people problems" are more interesting than "technical problems" when developing software. We also discuss how organizations can effectively use consensus discussion-making for a flatter structure. Finally Steve weighs in on the merits of Turbo Links and the need for measurable facts when talking performance.