Summary: Sam and Jason fill in for Jerod to interview Freddy Martinez of the non-profit Lucy Parsons Labs in Chicago. Martinez won a major public records case against the Chicago Police Department specifically over their use of surveillance technology. In doing so, he's uncovered proof that the CPD uses seized money from drug busts to fund their acquisition of surveillance gear. The three talk about his case, the wider surveillance state, the counter-surveillance movement and more!
