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Summary: In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Brian Rea discusses the value of being rejected, art directing for <em>The New York Times</em> and his fascination with UFO’s.
Summary: In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Brian Rea discusses the value of being rejected, art directing for <em>The New York Times</em> and his fascination with UFO’s.