Summary: Subscribe to the unSeminary Podcast: [iTunes] [RSS] [Stitcher] [TuneIn] // [VIDEO iTunes] [VIDEO RSS] Late last year I bumped into Sarah and her book Jesus Feminist. I took some time to read through her book and I found myself drawn in by her writing, her stories and how she was challenging me. Today I'm honored to have Sarah on the podcast with us as she talks about her own journey and provides some help for church leaders looking to ensure that women in our churches have a voice and aren't invisible. Take some time to listen in to Sarah and buy her book to continue the conversation. Have you heard about the IF:Gathering conference that happened a few weeks ago? If you interested in exploring this topic more ... I'd recommend you track with that team. I'm encouraged by what I see happening in that movement. There is a fair amount of Canadian content on today's podcast ... like a good Canadian living in America I need say that I'm sorry if I've offend you for talking about my home and native land. :) Sarah Bessey // [Website] [twitter] Interview Highlights 00:38 // Rich just finished reading Sarah Bessey's book 'Jesus Feminist' 00:50 // Fellow Canadians talk about the Winter Olympics 02:03 // Sarah is a wife, mom, writer, blogger, story teller 03:12 // Sarah grew up in a 'post-Christian' context 03:59 // Rich encourages leaders to look at Canadian ministries and learn where America is headed culturally 06:25 // Rich gives a strong recommendation for 'Jesus Feminist' 06:50 // Sarah's relationship with Jesus made her a feminist 10:20 // In some church contexts saying you are a feminist is like saying you are a terrorist 11:53 // Sarah talks about what it was about Jesus that changed her thinking 14:17 // Sarah talks to leaders about what they can do to engage women in leadership in the church 15:26 // First step is to Repent. 'It's hard to have hope when you haven't fully recognized the disappear.' 16:50 // Second Step is to ask if women are invisible in the community 16:57 // Rich won't ever be a part of a movement where his daughter is considered a second class spiritual citizen 19:00 // Rich recalls former BIC Bishop Darryl Winger actively responding to the visibility of women. Sarah calls it 'embodying the better' 22:02 // Is it really the Gospel if it is not true for everyone? 23:17 // Your view of scripture is being shaped by culture 24:21 // www.sarahbessey.com Interview Transcript // Rich - Alright, well welcome to the unSeminary Podcast. Thanks so much for tuning in. You know this is the podcast where we try to provide some non-traditional training for people trying to war it out, live it out in the real world. I am super happy to have Sarah Bessey on the line today. Over Christmas time I read her book and actually just finished it a couple days ago. It's called "Jesus Feminist'. I don't know if you can even see that. The problem when you read on an iPad. Super excited to have her on the phone. Thanks so much for being on the show today Sarah! Sarah - Thank you for having me. Rich - The other great thing about Sarah is that she is Canadian! Sarah - That is a great thing! Rich - That is a great thing. We are recording this during the Winter Olympics and we are currently on top which makes me feel happy on the inside. Sarah - I know. We will enjoy it while it lasts. As long as it does. I completely bust into tears when Alex Bilodeau won yesterday. I have a lot of feelings when it comes to the Winter Olympics. This is my favorite Olympics so I am really overdosing on it. Rich - Absolutely! It's true you know. I had to figure out how to get the Canadian feed here in America, through some grey market technology. But this is a place of grace, love and acceptance so that's ok. Sarah - Absolutely. Rich - But the last time, 4 years ago at the Winter Olympics, we had to watch the American feed which wasn't very good. Sarah - No. I had to do that.
