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Summary: On this episode Michelle speaks to Carmen Lawrence about life after politics, John Curtin's legacy and her work with the University of Western Australia.**Recorded at the Curtin Family Home in Cottesloe, Western Australia**
Summary: On this episode Michelle speaks to Carmen Lawrence about life after politics, John Curtin's legacy and her work with the University of Western Australia.**Recorded at the Curtin Family Home in Cottesloe, Western Australia**