SitePoint Podcast #168: Secret Src with Jeremy Keith




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Summary: Episode 168 of The SitePoint Podcast is now available! This week our regular interview host Louis Simoneau (@rssaddict) interviews Jeremy Keith (@adactio) who now works at ClearLeft to talk about the developments in the Responsive Design world, and particularly the ongoing discussions on proposed image element solutions. Listen in Your Browser Play this episode directly in your browser — just click the orange “play” button below: Download this Episode You can download this episode as a standalone MP3 file. Here’s the link: SitePoint Podcast #168: Secret Src with Jeremy Keith (MP3, 32:47, 31.5MB) Subscribe to the Podcast The SitePoint Podcast is on iTunes! Add the SitePoint Podcast to your iTunes player. Or, if you don’t use iTunes, you can subscribe to the feed directly. Episode Summary Louis and Jeremy to talk about the developments in the Responsive Design world, and particularly the ongoing discussions on proposed image element solutions the WHATWG are looking at from various proposals. googletag.cmd.push(function() { googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1328644474660-10'); }); Browse the full list of links referenced in the show at http://delicious.com/sitepointpodcast/168. Interview Transcript Louis: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Sitepoint podcast. Today on the show, I’m very pleased to have with me Mr. Jeremy Keith, all the way from the sunny United Kingdom. Hi, Jeremy. Jeremy: Hi, good to be back. Louis: It’s great to have you back. You were on the show I believe in May of 2011, and we had a pretty far ranging conversation about responsive web design. Obviously since then, almost the only thing you hear about on the Internet is responsive web design. So I thought it’d be a great time to have you back and see where things have come in the past year. Jeremy: Excellent. Sounds good. Louis: All right. First of all, one of the things you mentioned the last time you were on the show, you made a prediction. You said the situation reminded you of the early days of web standards, and there will probably be some high profile site that will do it right. They’ll be the first canonical big, responsive brand in the same way as we had ESPN.com or the Wired redesign. You said that in May. In September, the Boston Globe launched their massive responsive redesign. It sounds like a pretty accurate prediction.` Jeremy: Yeah, I think that’s exactly what happened. Now there is somebody you can point to and say, “Like that.” Then I’ve actually noticed it even with clients, that they’re coming to us now and pointing to the Boston Globe and saying, “How did they do that?” And, “Can we have that?” Which was exactly what it was like with the big web standards changes at the start of the millennium. Louis: You’ve already seen this in the wild. Do clients immediately get that that’s a more attractive approach for them than going the traditional mobile separate site or app route? Jeremy: Where I’ve seen it be convincing for clients is for clients who have tried to do separate apps for different platforms. Maybe two, three years ago they built an iOS app, and then in the last 18 months, oh, we need to build an Android app. Then at some point they realized oh, we need to build Windows phone. It’s those clients who are now saying, “All right, enough is enough. This is getting out of hand, and where is this going to stop?” They’re looking at their numbers and realizing that this just won’t scale. It’s those clients that are the ones who are quite intrigued by responsive design and what it promises. There’s a bit of a danger though in that responsive design has also become a trendy, buzzwordy term amongst people who don’t make websites. When it’s being used by developers and designers, that’s fine. We all understand what we mean by responsive design. Ethan Marcotte was very, [...]