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Summary: In this episode, Craig talks to Andrew Newman and Richard Westwell from Suncorp about the role automated testing should play in software development teams. Download links: MP3AACOgg VorbisLinks:Automated testingFighter/Magic-userTDDTechnical debt"If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?" John WoodenSpock FrameworkGebPair programmingExponential cost of fixing defects