![Design Matters with Debbie Millman show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/027/070/small/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-2009-2012.jpg)
Summary: On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie talks to Jessica Walsh about selling moss covered rocks to her elementary school classmates, her quick assent in the world of design, becoming a partner with Stefan Sagmeister and, of course, taking those naked pictures.