![Harm Reduction Radio - HAMS show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/039/275/small/addiction-treatments-that-work-blog-talk-radio-feed.jpg)
Summary: Our first guest is Jim Christopher, founder of SOS (Secular Organizations For Sobriety, also known as Save Our Selves), a non religious abstinence based alternative to AA. He is also the author of How to Stay Sober: Recovery Without Religion and other books. Our second guest is Andrew Tatarsky, author of Harm Reduction Psychotherapy: A New Treatment for Drug and Alcohol Problems.