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Summary: Trusting in God can see the underdogs and most inadequate people do great things. Mike Kai was a 21 year old divorced father feeling abandoned, broken hearted, frustrated and suicidal. He is now a church pastor. Mike talks about the uphill battle he faced and the Pound for Pound Principle he created.