![On Being with Krista Tippett show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/026/800/small/apm-on-being.png)
Summary: South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission created a new model of national healing after a history of extreme violence. Two people who did the work of the commission -- Charles Villa-Vicencio, a white theologian, and Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela, a black psychologist -- speak on the religious lessons and legacy of that process.