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Summary: Iranian-American political scientist Darius Rejali is one of the world's leading experts on torture, and in particular on how democracies change torture and are changed by it. We'll explore how his knowledge might deepen public discourse about practices in U.S. military prisons in recent years -- and inform our collective reckoning with consequences yet to unfold.