Summary: Trev and AJ chat about the crucial-ness of staying in (artistic) shape, the crucial-ness of having a second, sustainable, and enjoyable source of income, and why committed action is better than coffee. Then they sit down with filmmaker Ryan Sage for Part 1 of their chat about unconventional ways to make kickass films on a budget — and how Ryan's first feature, "A Big Love Story" (formerly "Worth the Weight") all started with a CraigsList ad. Total running time: 1:09:58.
