![Design Matters with Debbie Millman show](https://d3dthqtvwic6y7.cloudfront.net/podcast-covers/000/027/070/small/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-2009-2012.jpg)
Summary: In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Jen Bilik talks about her company – Knock Knock, her ability to combine designing, writing and humor in her product line, selling her New York City apartment, and being a certified entrepreneurial badass.