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Summary: In the first episode of the Hordes / Warmachine Podcast, Zach talks with special guest and Troll Extraordinaire Philip Rowland. This episode features a discussion of Philip's ideal 35 point pMadrak list, a look into a few recent Khador previews, and a discussion on what Zach and Phil would do differently if they were just getting into Hordes / Warmachine. Mentioned Links Building My Kriel - By Philip Rowland Troll War Wagon - Privateer Insider Vladimir Tzepsci Art - Privateer Insider Khador Mechanik Officer - Privateer Preview Basic Pinning - By Zach Bunn You can find us talking about Hordes / Warmachine on Twitter @Warmahordes. Look for the next episode of the Hordes / Warmachine Podcast when Zach will talk with other guests from the Team Covenant playgroup.