Gaslighting in America - That No-Good Friend with special guest Emily Powell Gilliam

Summary: This episode came about as our friend Emily was "Goodwill Hunting" and our conversation that began on Gaslighting in America. We laugh and we get scared and we ultimately feel empowered to live a good life, one in which we support each other and are mentally, physically, and socially healthy and good and we laugh again. Join this conversation about gaslighting, existential guilt crisis, how to deal with gaslighting at work and with friends and family, and also poop emojis. You will LOVE your new friend Emily Powell Gilliam! Emily Powell Gilliam is a designer of play objects and founder of Why & Wiser, creating artful games and gifts for clever kiddos and their grownups. To reach Emily:http://www.epgdesign.co/ http://www.whyandwiser.com/ https://www.instagram.com/epgdesignco/           Transcript [00:00:00] Emily: I had lots of ways of dealing with her. And for four years that was enough. And then, you know, I S I just like, it wore me down and my own, like physical, well, mental first health, and then physical health, just like, you know, went over a cliff, like, and told that if I wanted to be considered for promotion, I needed to work on being softer, use shorter words, be less aggressive. And that I intimidated the owner basically like be more female. [00:00:47] Matt: See that that's weird because , when you were describing it, I was like, oh my God, where are you coming across as, too passive? And that's why they didn't consider you for a manager because they didn't see you as a manager type, but they just saw you as a rabble rouser, and a troublemaker, but then why not just, can you, I mean, it's, it's a weird thing. [00:01:04] Emily: Well, if they canned me, they would have to pay unemployement. and my twin, is far less straightforward as a person because I'm not, [00:01:14] Matt: you're not a shrinking violet. [00:01:16] Emily: I'm not even a violet, I'm like a thistle My husband was like, you can't, you can't stay there. And then my therapist was like, you're literally doing physical damage to your body from the extended, stress of dealing with this [00:01:35] Fawn: Th