Summary: 我从家里出门,步行五公里就来到了海边,这期节目是在海边,在海鸥、冲浪者和海风陪伴下制作的,它也是我在新西兰制作的第一期岁念节目。从这期节目开始,《狗熊有话说》播客,真正具有了全球化的视角。 I left home, walked 5 kilometers and I could see the ocean. I recorded this episode on the shore, this is the first episode I made in New Zealand. BearTalk became a real global podcast from today.