Throughout Southeast Asia, Chinese Buddhist vegetarians kept Bill very well fed. He finds out more about this other vegetarian movement – and tries lots of food.
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From Singapore to Thailand, I ate plenty of Chinese food. In both the trading areas which face Sumatra across the Melaka Straits, and in the big cities like Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok, there were so many vegan or almost-vegan restaurants that I sometimes stumbled across them without having to seek them out. Until I got to veggie-friendly Chiang Mai at the northern tip of my journey, they were all run by the Buddhist Chinese.
As a bonus, they often took local speciality dishes and veganised them, giving me a culinary journey.
Curious about what motivated this, I talked to the managers and chefs.
This contrasts a little with Thai Buddhism. This has a tradition that every man should become a Buddhist monk at least once in their life, so I had plenty of chances to talk to former monks as well as monks currently wearing the orange robes of Thai monks. They told me that they do eat meat placed in their begging bowl, and that they believed this tradition was what based in what the Buddha did. So where did the idea of vegetarianism come from? I visited Dr Peter Flügel, a lecturer in Jaina studies in London’s School of Oriental Studies, to get his answer.
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Meanwhile in Los Angeles, the Quarrygirl vegan foodie blog had been doing an undercover investigation of supposedly vegan restaurants. They tracked fake meats that tested positive for egg and milk back to suppliers in Taiwan. Contaminated vegan food has become a big enough issue there for ministers to try to strengthen and enforce labelling laws.
This is an international problem, affecting Chinese food from Taiwan to the USA. But how much does it affect the Chinese food travellers eat in Southeast Asia? I asked the International Vegetarian Union co-ordinator for the whole of Southeast Asia, Susianto Tseng.
“Yes, the Chinese vegetarian restaurants in Indonesia also purchase some mock meats from Taiwan, but most of them are purchased from Malaysia’s and Singapore’s manufacturers. We have heard about the contamination of mock meat made in Taiwan so that IVS [Indonesia Vegetarian Society] informs the vegetarian in Indonesia to be careful and aware of that.”
So there is a possibility that the meal will not actually be vegan. But this is always going to be a risk, and both the level of contamination and the risk seem low in the context of other SE Asian restaurants.
I was very glad that the Chinese diaspora were there to feed me in my travels.
My thanks go to Dr Peter Flügel of SOAS, University of London, to Chong Keng Hoon from Luk Yea Yan in Penang, to Jack from Whole Earth restaurant in Singapore, and to the kin who ate all the mock meat whilst I interviewed Jack.
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]]>Bill toured the temples of Cambodia, and found a foodie Frenchman running a vegetarian restaurant.
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Eating on the tourist trail in Cambodia took a bit more effort. It was harder to communicate because fewer people spoke English, I had learnt even less Khmer than Thai, labels were rarely in English, and the usually useful Vegan Passport failed me in Cambodia.
This is all a little frustrating, because communication is more important in Cambodia. My guide book had already warned me that many Cambodians do not understand vegetarianism, so I wanted to be sure I was clear. Many food stalls lacked a supply of water, so street traders cannot wash pots after cooking meat, or blenders after making milkshakes, even if you could ask them to.
User Simpson Yellow added some useful phrases to the Happy Cow Cambodia notes page. Nicolas pronounced “Dtai bon-lai” (“only vegetables”) for us. If you know Khmer, and can advance our collective knowledge by confirming the information already out there and telling us how to make sure, please do add them in the comments – or better still, to the Happy Cow notes page.
(The UK vegan society would love to hear from you if you can translate the Vegan Passport text into Khmer.)
The major tourist sites have their own vegetarian restaurants. In Siem Reap, I discovered the western-style V&A and Nicolas’ Chamkar with its Khmer cooking.
My guide and translator Em was invaluable, not just for the history of the monuments I visited and communicating with restaurants, but for a window into Cambodian culture. I asked him to tune the radio into Khmer stations and explain the songs. One stuck in my memory: the singer was a bridegroom worried about his wedding night because his bride was not a virgin. Worse for the groom, the ex-boyfriend was a his best friend. Em described the conflict between the countryside that expected virgin brides and the pressure of the cities. As culture changed, Cambodian women were caught between expectations.
When I cycled around temples, I would keep myself going with snacks and fruit. The famous rule for staying healthy on local food is “peel it, boil it, cook it, or forget it” – which meant forgoing all the pre-sliced mango sold on a stick in plastic bags. I did cave in and try it when I was about to go home, and it was very tasty. Going back, I would have brought a sharper knife for peeling mango.
One of my many regrets about Cambodia is not stopping by a greengrocer stall and trying all the exotic varieties of fruit. I tried only one. It was awful. It was like eating a dry sponge. Another taste I have yet to acquire from Em is the sharp tang of unripe mango, neatly sliced with sauces.
You may wish to read other people’s experiences, such as the Vegan Undergound trip earlier this year, and the VegNews tour in 2006. Both stayed longer and went to places I did not, including the capital Phnom Penh.
My thanks go to Nicolas, Ananda (voice of the Time Out New York Kitchen Report infographic), and the Elephant Nature Park mahouts for your contributions.
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]]>How do you find good vegan food in Thailand? Bill journeyed across the ancient kingdom, met a vegan tour organiser, and tasted lots of good food. This included some unusual flavours of soy ice cream.
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Bill on Thailand
This anonymous TripAdvisor page was a useful source of important Thai phrases for vegetarians. Whoever wrote it, thank you. Cristen Andrew’s Circle Our Earth now have a useful vocab guide too. The UK Vegan Society’s Vegan Passport (Google books page) has written definitions of vegan in many languages, including Thai. It often elicits a “Yes, I understand. Vegetarian”, but it does help get the message over. And in Thailand less dairy is used in cooking, so the practical difference between vegetarian and vegan is smaller and the mistake is perhaps easier to make.
Happy Cow was invaluable in finding those many vegetarian restaurants I went to.
Restaurants offering vegetarian cooking classes include Taste from Heaven in Chiang Mai, and May Kaidee in both Chiang Mai and Bangkok. Many other restaurants will offer classes if you ask, but check whether you will get a cookbook or need to invite fellow travellers along to help you eat your cooking!
You can see the Thai symbols for “Jay” (Chinese vegetarian, which will have its own podcast soon) as either Chanchao’s photograph of a Jay restaurant sign or in the text of the HappyCow notes page for Thailand.
Blue Diamond is the restaurant with all the soy ice cream, including many flavours that did not get a mention.
Thank you to Nan at Taste of Heaven restaurant, Izzy, and the Elephant Nature Park mahouts for your contributions.
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Many tourist maps (including the official Bangkok map) usefully include vegetarian restaurants, although the Bangkok map is both less complete and more vague than vegetarian restaurant site Happy Cow.
Vegan Underground have also been to Southeast Asia, and blogged about their food and travel in the region.
I recommend the Elephant Nature Park as a place to go and spend time looking after elephants. It lets elephants express their natural behaviour instead of making them perform tricks and give rides. The meals are omnivorous with around half the dishes vegan. The founder Lek Chailert is a very supportive vegan who made sure I was well fed! Elephant Nature Park had a difficult start, and mainstream media such as Time Magazine have told this story of cruelty and sanctuary already.
(Edited May 5 to include the Vegan Underground and Jay symbol links.)
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