Boulder Tech Podcast

This is one of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guests for Episode 45 are Vanessa Clark, co-founder and CEO, and William Kowalski, co-founder and COO, of Atomos, a Denver-based company building the railroad of space with spacecraft that move satellites from low Earth orbit to anywhere beyond our atmosphere. In our conversation, we get into: the state of private space explorationwhat sets Atomos’ last-mile services apart from their competitors, and their plan to disrupt and revolutionize how we operate in spacethe space biz in Colorado and how, for all its ambitious projects and high-flying goals, Atomos is, at heart, a family-run company Follow Atomos on Twitter @AtomosSpace. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

This is one of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guest for Episode 44 is Jonathan Lamer, Founder and CEO of ThirdCo, a sustainable technology product manufacturer based in Montreal. During his first time in Boulder, Jonathan stopped by to talk about: How a French-Canadian found himself at Boulder Startup WeekWhy a founder should set out to fail bigThe challenge of finding the right people for your missionHow the Montreal and Boulder entrepreneurial communities differWhy Jonathan loves “the no” Follow Jonathan on Twitter @JonathanLamer. Episode 44 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Social Impact track sponsor, Popsockets. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

Episode 43 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is part of a special “WILD” series of interviews recorded during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week.  WILD (Women Inspiring Leadership Development) is a new track at Boulder StartUp Week 2019, and features candid conversations celebrating women’s startup success, diversity, power, mentoring muscle and leadership impact.  For the WILD series, I’m pleased to hand off interviewing duties to Stephanie Brady, Managing Director at iFG Studios and Board Member of The WILD Council. who chats in this episode with Shail Mehta, CEO and Co-Founder of The Last Gameboard about : How Shail started a tech venture without a tech backgroundHer inspiration to fuse the physical game board experience into the digital gaming world. And battling the bro-culture as a minority woman  The WILD at Boulder Startup Week podcast series is supported by 1stBank, “banking for good” to help business customers achieve their goals and provide them the resources to succeed.  *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder Startup Week 2019 Title sponsor, Techstars. At the core, Techstars is a company founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. With more than 300,000 alumni and 10,000 mentors across 150 countries, Techstars is a worldwide network that helps entrepreneurs succeed. To learn more, go-to techstars.com.  *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

This is one of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guest for Episode 42 is Dan Caruso, Chairman and CEO of Zayo Group, a leading global provider of Communications Infrastructure and a major supporter of the Front Range tech and startup community.   In our short conversation, Dan: gives me a quick tutorial on communications infrastructuretells us why, in the early days of the tech age, big players like Level 3 chose to locate their headquarters on the Front Range explains why ever-faster connectivity has more important applications than simply enjoying a better gaming or Netflix experience speaks with obvious passion about why Zayo Group loves to invest in the local community Follow Dan on Twitter @DanCaruso. Episode #42 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Accelerator track sponsor, UpRamp. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms, comments and guest suggestions are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

Our guest for Episode 41 is Joe Minock, Founder of AthleteProgress - a company building software to help sports clubs, teams, and private coaches clarify and expedite athlete feedback, measure individual and team progress over time, and understand efficacy of teaching concepts. Among many things, Joe and I get into: What your child’s sports team has in common with the 2002 Oakland A’s.The cultural changes Joe’s noticed through his lifelong involvement in sportsWhy a multi-sport athlete tends to be a healthier, happier, more well-rounded person than a single-sport athleteThe payoffs that AthleteProgress delivers for players even when they’re off the field Follow Joe on Twitter @JoeMinock. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder Startup Week 2019 Title sponsor, Techstars. At the core, Techstars is a company founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. With more than 300,000 alumni and 10,000 mentors across 150 countries, Techstars is a worldwide network that helps entrepreneurs succeed. To learn more, go-to techstars.com.  Episode #41 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Relationship track sponsor, Gloo. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms, comments and guest suggestions are welcome. I'm here; reach out anytime. Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

Episode 40 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is part of a special “WILD” series of interviews recorded during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week.  WILD (Women Inspiring Leadership Development) is a new track at Boulder StartUp Week 2019, and features candid conversations celebrating women’s startup success, diversity, power, mentoring muscle and leadership impact.  For the WILD series, I’m pleased to hand off interviewing duties to Stephanie Brady, Managing Director at iFG Studios and Board Member of The WILD Council. On today’s epsiode, Stephanie speaks with Megan Bent, Founder of Harbinger Ventures, about a number of things, including: Startup lessons she’s learnedMegan’s passion for supporting female founders Creating a new “shared-benefit” model of venture funding  The WILD at Boulder Startup Week podcast series is supported by 1stBank, “banking for good” to help business customers achieve their goals and provide them the resources to succeed.  *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder Startup Week 2019 Title sponsor, Techstars. At the core, Techstars is a company founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. With more than 300,000 alumni and 10,000 mentors across 150 countries, Techstars is a worldwide network that helps entrepreneurs succeed. To learn more, go-to techstars.com.  Episode #39 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Product Management track sponsor, SOVRN. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

This is one of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guest for Episode 39 is Susan Crouse, CEO of Traxart Toys - a company founded to get kids back on the ground and playing with toys. Among many things, Susan and I chat about: What drew a long time, high-end product development manager to toysWhy being a product developer is great prep for becoming a CEOSusan's enthusiastic advocacy for rapid prototypingAnd the cruel irony underlying the fundraising challenges faced by women in tech  Follow Susan on Twitter @CEOTraxartToys. SPECIAL NOTE: Traxart Toys is running a Kickstarter campaign through June 19, 2019. Learn more here. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder Startup Week 2019 Title sponsor, Techstars. At the core, Techstars is a company founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. With more than 300,000 alumni and 10,000 mentors across 150 countries, Techstars is a worldwide network that helps entrepreneurs succeed. To learn more, go-to techstars.com.  Episode #39 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Product Management track sponsor, SOVRN. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com Thanks for listening. We’ll see you back here for the next episode of the Boulder Tech Podcast.

This is one of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guest for Episode 38 is Kristin Darga, Founder of Impact Founder - a multimedia conversation sharing real successes and failures of global entrepreneurs.   Kristin and I get into a number of topics, including: Why entrepreneurs — even the successful ones — are 3 times as likely to suffer from depression as the average person.The personal experience that led her to create Impact Founder.How primitive human archetypes still contribute to our actions today.How impact founder serves as a bridge linking capitalism with art. Follow Kristin on Twitter @ImpactFounder.

This is the first of 20 interviews recorded in a popup backroom studio at dojo4 during the 10th annual Boulder Startup Week. When it started in 2009, Boulder Startup Week was the first event of its kind, anywhere. Now, Startup Weeks are held around the world. It’s a great example of Boulder’s position on the leading edge of tech — and the future. Our guest for Episode 37 is Marcie Tucker, CEO and founder of 99Agree - a company dedicated to helping college students live, share, and get along with each other at the highest potential possible.  We talk about a number of issues, including: the growing need — and not just among college students — for roommate compatibility forecastingHow agreements transform communitiesMarcie’s perspective on the gap between the rhetoric and the real in the Front Range tech and startup communitywhat roommates and Mars Simulation have in common Follow Marcie on Twitter @DrMSTucker. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder Startup Week 2019 Title sponsor, Techstars. At the core, Techstars is a company founded by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. With more than 300,000 alumni and 10,000 mentors across 150 countries, Techstars is a worldwide network that helps entrepreneurs succeed. To learn more, go-to techstars.com.  Episode #37 of the Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by Boulder StartUp Week Adventure track sponsor, Brandzooka. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Boulder StartUp Week platinum sponsors Honey, Matter and Zayo.  We’re also supported by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for our podcast studio, and to KGNU Community Radio for recording gear and studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Hear more at eccodek.com (that’s E-c-c-o-d-e-k). Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. You’ll find them at earthrisesoundsystem.com The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by me, Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at

Our guest for Episode #36 is Andrew Hyde. Andrew’s done a lot of things — written a book, launched three startups, hired as employee #1 at TechStars — including founding Boulder Startup Week — the first-ever Startup Week anywhere — the 10th annual edition of which runs from May 13-17th at many venues across Boulder. Among several things, we discuss the genesis of Boulder Startup Week (and, tangentially, the Boulder Tech Podcast), and Andrew’s suggestions for how to approach the week and get the most out of your experience. Follow Andrew on Twitter @unicorn. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.

Our guest for episode #35 is Daniel Scrivner, former Creative Director at Square, and current CEO of Flow. Our wide-ranging discussion covers many topics, including Our wide-ranging discussion covers many topics, including: His journey from a high school grad to being a major creative contributor at companies like Apple and Square to his current role as a CEO.How intuition fits into the investing process.Things he does to avoid ruts, stay refreshed and broaden his world view.Why there’s no Alexa or Echo in Daniel's home. All of that and more, as the Boulder Tech Podcast speaks with Flow’s Daniel Scrivner. Follow Daniel on Twitter @DanielScrivner. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.

Our guest for Episode #34 is Irina Gladysheva, a Watson Institute scholar and founder of LearnEx, a learning platform for connecting people from her native Russia with teachers and opportunities for work and study abroad. We cover several topics, including: How a 9th grader living in a rural Russian village taught herself English. Where she developed her passion for connecting other Russians with opportunities and the world beyond Russia. How Irina’s making the most of her time at Watson Institute, developing a platform for accomplishing her mission. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by iolo.com, developers of the award-winning software suite System Mechanic, which repairs, optimizes, and protects Windows PCs. With a global sales presence in 33 countries and products in 11 languages, tens of millions of people have used iolo’s products for their PC optimization, security, and data recovery needs since 1998. Today, iolo is widely recognized by both consumers and industry experts as a worldwide leader in the system utility software market. iolo is offering all Boulder Tech Podcast listeners a 60% discount off either Phoenix 360, System Mechanic Pro, or System Mechanic through the coupon code: BOULDERTECHPODCAST. Simply go to iolo.com, decide which product works best for you, and enter the coupon code BOULDERTECHPODCAST at checkout. The 60% discount will be automatically applied to your order. The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.

Our guest for episode #33 is Jeremy Fields, Front End Development Director at Viget, a design agency dedicated to building a better digital world. Jeremy and I talk about: How the fast-paced world of web design isn’t really so fast-paced. Why and how he set about instilling accessibility in design into Viget’s company cultureThe tradeoffs involved in balancing good design with accessibility (spoiler: there don’t have to be many, if any)Why accessibility should be taken into account even when it’s not specifically required or requested by the clientThe common design/front end function whose demise Jeremy most looks forward to *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by iolo.com, developers of the award-winning software suite System Mechanic, which repairs, optimizes, and protects Windows PCs. With a global sales presence in 33 countries and products in 11 languages, tens of millions of people have used iolo’s products for their PC optimization, security, and data recovery needs since 1998. Today, iolo is widely recognized by both consumers and industry experts as a worldwide leader in the system utility software market. iolo is offering all Boulder Tech Podcast listeners a 60% discount off either Phoenix 360, System Mechanic Pro, or System Mechanic through the coupon code: BOULDERTECHPODCAST. Simply go to iolo.com, decide which product works best for you, and enter the coupon code BOULDERTECHPODCAST at checkout. The 60% discount will be automatically applied to your order. The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.

Our guest for Episode #32 is Analiese Brown, Director of Talent & Culture at CampMinder. They’ve been building technology for camps since 2001.  Analiese and I discuss:  How to hire and retain great people in a competitive market such as Boulder’s. What workplace culture actually is - and what it isn’t.Why CampMinder puts company culture first and foremost in their mission.How readily the values we learned at camp translate to today’s workplace. Follow Analiese on Twitter @analiesemarie. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by iolo.com, developers of the award-winning software suite System Mechanic, which repairs, optimizes, and protects Windows PCs. With a global sales presence in 33 countries and products in 11 languages, tens of millions of people have used iolo’s products for their PC optimization, security, and data recovery needs since 1998. Today, iolo is widely recognized by both consumers and industry experts as a worldwide leader in the system utility software market. iolo is offering all Boulder Tech Podcast listeners a 60% discount off either Phoenix 360, System Mechanic Pro, or System Mechanic through the coupon code: BOULDERTECHPODCAST. Simply go to iolo.com, decide which product works best for you, and enter the coupon code BOULDERTECHPODCAST at checkout. The 60% discount will be automatically applied to your order. The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.

Our guest for Episode #31 is Madison Kerndt, software engineer and developer evangelist at Iron Core Labs, creators of a development platform for end-to-end data control, privacy, and security Madison and I cover a lot, including: the tradeoffs between privacy and security that consumers are often forced to makethe morality of security - and whether tech companies hold themselves to a high enough standard in that regard.how Boulder is a tech greenhousethe importance of digging into the hard tech for newcomers to the tech biz Follow Madison on Twitter @cipher-sift. *** The Boulder Tech Podcast is presented by iolo.com, developers of the award-winning software suite System Mechanic, which repairs, optimizes, and protects Windows PCs. With a global sales presence in 33 countries and products in 11 languages, tens of millions of people have used iolo’s products for their PC optimization, security, and data recovery needs since 1998. Today, iolo is widely recognized by both consumers and industry experts as a worldwide leader in the system utility software market. iolo is offering all Boulder Tech Podcast listeners a 60% discount off either Phoenix 360, System Mechanic Pro, or System Mechanic through the coupon code: BOULDERTECHPODCAST. Simply go to iolo.com, decide which product works best for you, and enter the coupon code BOULDERTECHPODCAST at checkout. The 60% discount will be automatically applied to your order. The Boulder Tech Podcast is made possible in part by Glider, a Colorado-based Community movement and non-profit that produces Boulder’s Ignite  and TedX events, as well as Boulder Startup Week. Learn more and consider a donation at glider.com Thanks to dojo4 for providing space for the Boulder Tech Podcast HQ, and to KGNU Community Radio for studio usage. Our intro music is by Eccodek. Our outro music is by EarthRise SoundSystem. The Boulder Tech Podcast is produced by Joel Davis. Your feedback, criticisms and comments are welcome. Reach me at joel@dojo4.com. Thank you for listening.