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School For The Dogs Podcast - Dog Training & Animal Behavior with Annie Grossman

Summary: Annie Grossman of the NYC-based dog training center School For The Dogs answers training questions, confronts myths, geeks out on animal behavior, discusses pet trends and interviews industry experts. Annie encourages people to become literate in the basics of behavioral science in order to help their dogs and themselves. Tune in to learn how to use science-based methods to train dogs (and people) without pain, force, or coercion! Show notes: Have a dog or puppy training question? Visit or leave a voicemail at 917-414-2625 Support this podcast:

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 School For The Dogs' trainer Erin Whelan on how dog training changed her life | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 3217

Erin Whelan was a professional French Horn Player. Then she adopted a beagle mix named Oliver and enrolled him in Puppy Kindergarten at School For The Dogs. Then she did the School For The Dogs Professional Program. Now, she is a trainer and manager at School For The Dogs. Annie, who was once her dog trainer and is now her boss, is a big Erin Whelan fan.  Annie and Erin discuss switching careers, Cesar Millan's best book, what it means to teach dogs virtually, human body language, and more. Sign up for a session with Erin, at our studio or virtually, at     Sign up for our master class at Get invited to our new community app at  The Like Switch Cesar's Rules --- Partial Transcript: Annie: If you work at School for the Dogs, you might, at some point be approached by our boss, with your boss, asking if you would be willing to be interviewed for the School for the Dogs podcast. In this scenario, I am the boss and the person I’m interviewing today is Erin Whelan. Erin started out with us as a client and ended up doing our professional program and is now a trainer and a manager with us. She is wonderful. I asked some of her coworkers to find adjectives to describe Erin. They said gregarious, honest, humble, fearless, compassionate, down to earth. Witty, Innovative, zealous.  Funny, loyal, team player, empathetic, warm, goofy, creative. I hope you’ll enjoy this conversation with Erin. You can book a session with Erin, either at our studio or virtually at [Intro and music] Annie: Hello. I am here with Erin Whelan. Did I say it right? Erin: You did. That’s very good. Annie: I know the H has to be sounded there. Erin: It doesn’t have to, but as long as it’s not wheelin, I’m happy. Annie: Whelan. And I am super psyched to be talking to you. I’ve known you for quite a while now, actually. Erin: Yeah it’s been over six years. Annie: So I, gosh, there’s so much to talk about, but why don’t you just kind of tell the story of how you ended up at School for the Dogs? And we can go from there. And actually, why don’t you start off by just explaining what you’re doing now at School for the Dogs, because you’ve been on both sides, the client and staff side, and you’ve worn a lot of hats on the staff side too, so. Erin: Well, yeah, so right now at the moment, I am both an associate trainer and interim day school manager at School for the Dogs. So I work at day school, puppy day school. I do private sessions for puppies and basic manners, adolescents, and day training. I also teach prep school and puppy kindergarten. Annie: Oh my goodness.  Describe what day school is for people who aren’t familiar. Erin: So for day school and puppy day school, those are drop-off training programs.  We have day schools for adult and adolescent dogs, and puppy day school. It’s in the name guys, it’s for puppies. And during both of those programs, the dogs go through some relaxation.  They have the opportunity to play with other dogs... Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Dog Training Q and A! 10/29/2020: Helping a puppy pee when its pouring and how to occupy your dog inside | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 1778

Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays. Sign up at Have a question? Visit or upload a recording at In this episode, Annie answers questions about how to deal with a young puppy who is scared to relieve himself outside when it is pouring, suggests how to keep dogs occupied inside, and discusses why dogs lift their legs when they pee, and more.  --- Partial Transcript: Annie: So I am going to be answering some questions. I have at least one that’s on my agenda. Hi Lily. Hi Yolanta. But I think I’m probably gonna keep this pretty short because I’m not feeling great, but I took an aspirin, and I had a drink.  [Laughs] And then I have another drink here that I’m sipping. So this isn’t a drinking problem, I have, it’s a drinking solution. Lily, where are you joining from? Yolanta as we know is in the borough of Staten Island. Yolanta, I’m curious, if you–last week we talked about you paying your neighbor to help you. I’m curious how that worked out. And I’m curious if you saw the movie The King of Staten Island.  Cause I thought it was kind of like a sweet ode to Staten Island, but then I wondered how actual Staten Island people felt. Oh, Lily is in Kips Bay. Well then we are neighbors. Okay, Lily, since you’re here and you’ve already asked me a question, let’s start with you. So Lily asked: My puppy is six months and hasn’t learned how to pee with his legs standing up. Will he ever learn? Great question. I don’t know. Some dogs are always going to prefer peeing in a squat. My dog, sometimes squats, sometimes lifts his leg. Some female dogs prefer lifting their leg to squatting. I think there will probably be a day where all of a sudden out of nowhere he’ll lift his leg and you’ll feel very proud, but I wouldn’t worry about it. I think that I think that one of the reasons, I don’t think I’m making this up. I think I’ve read about this, but I think one of the reasons we think dogs lift their leg is so that they appear bigger.  Isn’t that interesting. Like, you know, one reason probably why little dogs have big ferocious barks is because they want dogs that are far away to think they’re bigger than they are. And one way to make dogs who might never meet you think that you’re more ferocious and should be treated with respect is if they smell you, and they smell your pee way up there. I should also apologize. My husband is also on a call right now for work. He is helping wealthy kids get into expensive colleges in the other room.  So if you hear that in the background, apologies. So yeah, I wouldn’t worry if he isn’t lifting his leg, but I’m curious if maybe he will. I don’t remember when my dog started lifting his leg, but six, seven, eight months. It sounds like it might be happening. And then we have a question here that came in from Mary Jane who is in Concepcion, Chile. She has a dog named Kenny, a mixed breed about 30 pounds. And Mary Jane says: I am having trouble teaching my dog to wear a harness and collar. I put a plate with bits of chicken to lure her as soon as she puts her head through it and the harness rests on her neck, but then she backs off. She is very touch sensitive. We’ve been four months together, and just a month ago she allowed me to pet and touch her across her body. Full transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Virtual private training session: Yoshi, an adolescent Shepherd who jumps on people on the street | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2574

Sit in on an initial virtual private dog training session with Annie Grossman and NYC resident Kari. Kari lives near School For The Dogs with an 8-month old Shepherd mix named Yoshi. Yoshi likes to jump on people when they're walking down the street, and he is quick to rollover on his back when people greet him. Annie gives Kari tips on keeping his attention while walking outside, suggests how to set up practice sessions with people approaching him, and gives Kari some fun and easy exercises she can work on with Yoshi in their home.  Book a private session:  - Get a free thirty minute private session when you purchase our Good Dog Training Course: - Liquid Treat Dispenser: --- Partial Transcript: [Music] Annie: This is a recording of a private session we did with a client. You can book a virtual or in-person private session at And for a limited time, you can get a free 30 minute virtual consult when you buy our Good Dog Training course available at The trainer in the session is me, Annie. The client is Carrie who lives in Manhattan with her adolescent rescue dog, Yoshi. Hi. Hi Kari. Nice to meet you. Kari: Hello. Hold on. Let me just adjust the volume. I don’t use zoom so I know nothing about this. Okay. Hi. Annie: Hi. So is this Yoshi? Kari Oh yeah. I gave him an antler to keep him busy, so he’s right behind me. Annie: Oh, yummy antler. Well, that sounds smart.  So tell me a little bit about how Yoshi came into your life and then let’s figure out how we can deal with… Doesn’t sound like you’re having major issues, but maybe a couple of things that we can improve upon. Kari: Okay. So we adopted him early August. He was an instant foster fail. Annie: And remind me, do you live in New York city? Kari: I’m literally three blocks south of School for the Dogs. Annie: Oh, awesome. Okay. Where did, where did you adopt him from? Kari: True North rescue.  So we’ve always wanted a dog for a long time, but I’ve never really pulled the trigger. I’d scroll Petfinder for a long time. We decided to, but you know, pandemic happened and I was home a lot and I’m like, I think it’s time. And we decided to foster at first because I wasn’t really sure or 100% ready to commit to a dog. So I said, let’s start fostering. The rescue that we got him from said that they were getting dogs from Puerto Rico. So that’s where he’s from. He’s from Puerto Rico. They flew him to Florida. He saw a vet there and then they loaded them to a truck and ended up in New York. So, I picked him out of a bunch of photos.  I knew nothing about him. He was six months when we got him and all they told me that he was a shepherd mix. We don’t really know what kind of mix he is. I don’t know if that matters. I wasn’t really keen on finding out right now. So we got him, he was six months. He didn’t really have any problems. apart from, of course within the first week he was sleeping a lot. He was probably really exhausted. And of course he was scared. I think he was more scared of us than anything else. So I had very little trouble. I didn’t even have to crate train him. He would go into his crate, no problem.  Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Recycled treats and retractable leashes: The good, the bad & the hilarious | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2823

In this episode, you'll learn about two products, each invented by a woman. The first is something you've probably encountered:  the retractable leash. The second is a new brand of treats called Shameless Pets, which makes yummy stuff for dogs from pre-consumer food waste.  The former can be quite dangerous, but Annie suggests a way to make it safer; the latter is a successful version of a Seinfeld-esque business plan that Annie's neighbor came up with in the 1990s.  In between tips about using a retractable leash and the story of Shameless Pets, you'll hear a hilarious piece of standup by comedian Drew Lynch.   Drew Lynch on retractable leashes - Mary Delaney's patent - Shameless Pet Treats - Free guide to house training --- Partial Transcription: Annie: Do you need some help teaching your dog where you want him to pee or poop, and when?  If so, I hope you’ll check out our brand new totally free house training guide. You can find it at It’s filled with lots of really good tips on how to train a dog to potty in the right spot. But it also is going to explain to you how to teach your dog to do it on cue. So go check it out. [Intro music] Hi, thanks for being here, humans. There are two parts to this episode. One part is about retractable leashes and the other part is a conversation I had with Alex Waite, who is one of the founders of Shameless, which is a really cool brand of treats that you’re going to learn a lot about. They’re doing things differently in a very interesting way. Just a reminder that if you liked this podcast, please go to iTunes and leave a review and support us by shopping in our online store I think we have the greatest stuff in the world there, for people who love their dogs.  Enjoy. So here’s something you might not know if you’ve never worked with a dog trainer or you don’t hang out with dog trainers.  Most dog trainers, at least the ones that I know, don’t like retractable leashes. And there are a bunch of reasons for this. For one, we want our dogs to ideally be walking on a loose leash. I always say a leash should be there the same way a seatbelt is in a car.  You don’t wear the seatbelt and then feel like, okay, now I can drive like a madman. It’s there in case of an emergency. Ideally your dog should be able to walk in a vicinity that is acceptable, but the leash should be there in case of an emergency. And if you have a leash that is always taut, your dog can get used to feeling that the leash has to have some kind of pull on him at all times.  So often dogs on retractable leashes are dogs who have learned to pull. Another reason is that the cord that attaches the class to the plastic chunky part of the retractable leash is very thin. And if you, if you get it wound around a finger or your leg or a dog, it can really do some damage. Actually, if you go to Google and you start typing in retractable leash, at least on my computer, the first suggested thing that comes up for you to be Googling is retractable leash injuries. Thanks to the magic of Google images, you can see what retractable leash injuries look like, and they’re pretty awful. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Annie's BFF Daisy Carrington on growing up with a stolen dog, being a childhood loan shark & more | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2505

In this bonus episode, Annie talks to one of her best friends, Daisy Carrington, who she has known since high school. After Daisy recently came in second place at a Moth story telling event, Annie asked her to share her story on this podcast. Her story doesn't really have to do with dogs, so Annie drilled her about her childhood with dogs to justify having her on as a guest.  Daisy remembers her screenwriter father, who lived in Malibu with a stolen Staffordshire Terrier named Zeb who he loved "as if he were an ex-wife," and talks about the time in tenth grade when Annie "ran away" to her apartment with her Wheaten Terrier, Zeke.  Annie and Daisy met when they were seven, became friends in high school, and later both became journalists. Their children were born ten weeks apart. They discuss both of their transitions away from journalism into new careers.  But the best part of the episode is when Daisy tells the story of how, as an 8-year-old living in Malibu, she became a loan shark to a famous British con man, Count Guiy de Montfort. Learn more about Guiy de Montfort here - Daisy's dad was screenwriter Robert Carrington, who wrote, among other things, the Audrey Hepburn movie Wait Until Dark - Learn more about Daisy Carrington at - Paris Themmen - What ever happened to the Oompa Loompa actors? --- Partial Transcript: Annie: This is a bonus episode in which I am talking to one of my very best friends about her life with dogs and some other things, too. This is a conversation with Daisy Carrington. We’ve been friends since we were kids. We both grew up to be journalists and are now both working in other areas. I hope you enjoy our lively conversation. I miss you. Daisy: I miss you too, my love. Won’t be gone for too long. I mean, I know it’s a couple months, but it will fly by. Annie: So I feel like I, since I’m going to record this, I feel like I need to explain to anyone listening, why I wanted to talk to you, as you are not someone who has a dog or works with dogs. Or I don’t think you have even very strong feelings about the things that I do as a dog trainer. But, as you know, you are one of my oldest and best friends, and I will take any excuse to chat with you. But, a few months ago back when people went out and did things, you told me that you went and did a story at The Moth. And I was sad that I didn’t get to go see it.  And also sad that you didn’t win, that you came in second because you are such a great and hilarious storyteller that I’m sure that you should have won. Daisy: I did feel robbed. Annie: I’m sure you were robbed. And we just haven’t had a moment where I could be like, sit down and perform it for me. So I thought, all right, well, if I can like, have you on the podcast, then it’ll be more of an occasion. And you will be forced to tell me your story, which I guess I’ve heard, because I’ve just known you for so long, but I haven’t heard the perfect telling of it. So I don’t if you’re up for it, but in order to warm up and to justify having you here, I thought we should talk a little bit about dogs first. Full transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Dog Training Q and A! 10/22/2020: Taking the Karen Pryor Academy and e-collars | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2684

Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays. Sign up at Have a question? Visit or upload a recording at In this episode, Annie answers questions about attending the Karen Pryor Academy. She suggests how you can deal with someone who seems to be needlessly  yelling at their dog.  A listener asks about Temple Grandin's use of e-collars and prey drive, and also asks about training using the beeping and vibrating function of a shock collar. Also: Can you train a dog to not pee near a water source? And can you pay the neighbor's kid to train  your dog?  --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hey everyone. This is a bonus Q and A episode. I try and answer questions live every Thursday. You can sign up to come to my free live Q and A at, you will see the next one I'm doing. I then am trying to take recordings of those Q and A's and post them here to the podcast feed. If you have a question, you can email me directly You can also go to and record your question there. Thanks for being here. Hello. Can you hear me? If you're here, please tell me if you can hear me this. Can you hear me? And hello, Kathy. Hello, Yolanda, Kathy. Where are you joining us from? Oh, great. You can hear me. Yolanda sent me thank you so much for the super sweet email you sent me Yolanta. Actually it was so sweet. Could I read it? Would you mind if I read it? Let me know. And I should tell you Yolanta. I just heard from -- so I took Amos, my dog to Blue Pearl yesterday, an animal hospital in New York City. And they did a needle biopsy of this mass that he has on his liver and it came out that it doesn't look like it's cancer. So, I mean I figured the chances of it not being cancer were like tiny.  I was really not prepared for that good news. So I'm thrilled. I mean, they said his heart’s a little big, like he clearly is an old dog with the beginnings of some issues.  But it’s possible he just had this really big mass on his liver for a long time. So overall just feeling quite glad about that. And my computer, which I spilled water on this time last week is working. I don’t want to jinx life, but the two terrible things that happened last Thursday are now a lot less terrible than they were. And I spent a lot of time over the last week, just like mourning him, even though he’s not gone yet. Just really had a lot of emotions, thoughts, feelings about life, death, time, et cetera. I’ve been a little emotional. And I am having a doctor who does acupuncture and like Chinese herbs stuff come, actually later today, see if maybe we can get his appetite going. And yeah, I feel also just so grateful to my two friends who are vets who have just gone above and beyond to help me through this scary week. Dr. Andrea Tu who’s with Behavior Vets, they used to rent space from us. They used to operate kind of outside of our studio for a long time. There are very few behavior vets in the country and she is, she and Dr. Christiansen are just such spectacular people. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 The "closet behaviorist" running for president: An interview with Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 3038

Did you know there is a woman running for president? Her name is Jo Jorgensen, she is the Libertarian candidate, and the only third party candidate who is going to be on the ballot in all 50 states.  Dr. Jorgensen has a PhD in organizational and industrial psychology and teaches at Clemson University. She has a Basset Hound named Gertrude, and she has trained her to not beg at the table... but that's not actually why Annie wanted to talk to her.  Annie wanted to talk to her because she has been trying to figure out if a world view and values informed by behavior-based dog training have turned her into a Libertarian. After she became a dog trainer, Annie started thinking about something that had never taken up much brain space for her before: Government. We can govern our pets' worlds, and produce good behaviors, using environmental management and conditioning. If we can do all that without punishment or coercion, couldn't it be possible to -- at least to some extent! -- govern people that way as well? Isn't "freedom" just the ability to make choices that will be positively reinforced, rather than doing things because of coercion? When Karen Pryor first started using a conditioned reinforcer to operantly condition dolphins to do tricks, she was using literature that had been given to her from the lab of Harvard Professor BF Skinner. He was experimenting on training animals in labs, but he was also writing about how humans could be conditioned. Last week, Annie looked at examples of people conditioning other people in some recent documentaries and biopics; this week, Annie speaks with the Libertarian presidential candidate about what it could mean to give people choice and to ease up on the use of coercion and punishment. Notes:  Ukulele version of America The Beautiful By Roy Sakuma - Jo Jorgenson's Campaign Site - Annie's dad Robert Grossman's illustration of Ronald Reagan as Mickey Mouse - Walden Two by BF Skinner - Beyond Freedom and Dignity by BF Skinner  --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Today’s episode is a little bit different. It’s an interview with a presidential candidate, Jo Jorgensen. She is the libertarian candidate for president this year. She is a professor of psychology at Clemson University. She has been an entrepreneur. She, her specialty is industrial and organizational psychology, and she is the only candidate other than Biden and Trump who is going to be on the ballot in every state. She’s also the best looking candidate that’s going to be on the ballot in every state. I guess that’s debatable, but I could say she looks more like me than anyone else running for president this year. I’m about to share with you a conversation I just had with her. But let me back up a little bit, because I feel like I need to explain that. First of all, I don’t actually think I’m a libertarian. And second of all, I feel like I need to explain why I’m having this conversation with this person on a dog training podcast. I mean, I’m sure she is a much better dog trainer with her dog than Biden is. And of course, Trump doesn’t have a dog, so that makes her the best dog trainer in the race, but that’s sort of over simplifying why I was interested and talking to her. I really have never considered myself a political person. My father was a political cartoonist and growing up politics to me like politics and cartoons went hand in hand. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Dog Training Q and A! 10/15/2020: Dealing with an adolescent dog and trying to find the perfect puppy | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 4195

Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays. Sign up at Have a question? Visit or upload a recording at In this episode, Annie talks about her epically bad day. She describes how a teenager has trained people to stop leaving her voicemails.  She talks to Joan, a Manhattan woman who has MS and an out-of-control adolescent shepherd in downtown Manhattan. She wants the dog to be a service dog, and also wants to breed him. She also talks to her longtime friend, New York Times columnist Ronda Kaysen, about her recent search for a non-shedding puppy. --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hey everyone. This is a bonus Q and A episode. I try and answer questions live every Thursday. You can sign up to come to my free live Q and A at, and you will see the next one I’m doing. I then am trying to take recordings of those Q and A’s and post them here to the podcast feed. If you have a question, you can email me directly annie@schoolforthedogs. You can also go to and record your question there. Thanks for being here. I was going to wear sunglasses for this episode, but I think I can’t see properly. Hey Yolanda, nice to see you and Joan is here. Hi, Joan. I just, I need a second to recover. It’s been a bad day. I would say this has been a really bad… first of all, well second of all, second of all, I just posted a podcast episode, like just bonus…well bonus sounds like it should be like a nice cherry thing. It didn’t feel like a nice cheery thing, but anyway, but I felt like I needed to post this episode. And as I posted it, like the microphone has like a little thing on it ….. Anyway as I… it’s actually, the second part is funny. The second part is right as I posted this episode, just now I like spilled an entire bottle of seltzer on my laptop. Like not a little bit, like the entire bottle of water just went over on my laptop. Fortunately, I have like a desktop PC, so I have a computer, but it was like, anyway. And the first thing that happened today, which was much worse, thing is I just learned that my dog is dying. It was like that phone call that you don’t ever want to get. Well, I got that call this morning where that said that he has something in his liver that’s inoperable most likely. I mean, I guess I could get a second opinion, but it sounds like, sounds like this is probably it. And he’s been in really good health up until pretty recently when a couple things started to seem off. He’s 15 and a half-yesterday was his 15 and a half birthday. And you know, they don’t live forever. It’s just just processing. He’s doing really well, he’s doing pretty well. We’re going to give him something to help his appetite, but he’s been his perky self, mostly. My daughters and him are so sweet together and I’m really glad that like she had the experience of having him as a dog, even though she probably won’t remember it, but like, he’s just been such an important part of my life for so long. And obviously now I have her and  it’s different, but I’m glad that they had a little bit of overlap in my life. Full transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Virtual private training session: Heidi, a rescue greyhound living in Manhattan | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 3254

Sit in on an initial virtual private dog training session with Annie Grossman and NYC residents Aquilla and Briana and their new rescue greyhound, Heidi.  Heidi doesn't want to sit and is trying to get to Aquilla and Briana's food whenever they eat while sitting on the couch. Annie offers some practical solutions and shows them how to shape Heidi to lie on a mat. Annie also shares Norwegian writer/dog trainer Turid Rugaas' thoughts on why we shouldn't train dogs to sit at all.  Book a private session:  - Get a free thirty minute private session when you purchase our Good Dog Training Course. - Turid Rugaas: Mentioned in this episode:  The Treat n' Train: - SFTD training mat:  Also see these pertinent episodes:   On dog food: On shaping a dog to go to a mat: --- Partial Transcript: Annie: This session is a recording of a private session we did with a client. You can book a private session And for a limited time, if you purchase our online good dog training course available at, you can do a complimentary 30 minute virtual private training session with a school for the dog strainer. The  trainer in this session is me, Annie. Aquilla, Brianna and their dog  Heidi are clients of ours who live in New York city. Heidi is a rescue  dog that they just adopted. Annie: Hi, hi, Pretty rainbow collar. So how did Heidi come into your life, your lives? Brianna/Aquilla: We got Heidi almost a month ago now. I think a  month tomorrow on the 19th, we rescued her from a Greyhound rehab. The  organization’s called Greyhound Rescue and Rehab, and they take  greyhounds that are retired from the tracks, rehab them and foster care  and then adopt them out. So she was a racer for a couple of years. She’s  three years old. So far we’ve done…we started on the 21 day training.  Right. That’s where we started. She is really good with “look,” pretty  okay with “touch” still working on that in distraction areas. So like  when we go to the park depending on whether or not there’s a squirrel,  she’ll respond or if there’s a lot of stimulus, she loves people. So  people are a big distraction for her. Like, she’ll stop walking if she  sees a person, which in New York, it’s like every three feet just so she  can get pets from other people. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Sociopaths as dog trainers, Negative Reinforcement at NXIVM & how to train humans to wear masks | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2366

Creepy Episode alert! It's all about sociopaths and cult leaders today. Some are both cult leaders and sociopaths! And one is a president. And one is the Unabomber.  Annie talks about animal behavior manipulation methods observed in the following shows: The Vow (, Filthy Rich (, The Social Dilemma (, Manhunt ( And then she looks at how the President is curing the Coronavirus with positive thinking, and looks at the differences between positive thinking, positive psychology and positive reinforcements.  And... Annie offers ideas on how to train people to wear masks. If you like this episode, think positive thoughts about it. Or positively reinforce Annie for doing it by leaving a review on iTunes. Annie on Instagram: @Annie.Grossman School For The Dogs on Instagram: @schoolforthedogs  Annie on her parents and Positive Reinforcement Vs Positive Thinking: Woof Mask by Found My Animal and School For The Dogs: Unabomber quotes --- Partial Transcript: Annie: I have a couple of quotes here I just wanted you to hear and think about whether they make sense to you. I'm going to come back to them in a little bit. The first is this one. “Imagine a home for a dog that subjects the dogs to conditions that make the dog terribly unhappy, then gives the dog drugs to take away the happiness. Instead of removing the conditions that make the dog depressed, the dog owner gives the dog antidepressant drugs. In effect, antidepressants are a means of modifying the dog's internal state in such a way as to enable the dog to tolerate social conditions that the dog might otherwise find intolerable.” Second quote. “Many dog owners tend to regard as a sickness, any mode of behavior that is inconvenient for the people in the home. And this is plausible because when the dog doesn't fit into the home, it causes pain to the dog and to those in the household.  Thus the manipulation of a dog's behavior to adjust him to the system is seen as a cure for a sickness and therefore as a good.” **intro** Annie: Humans, friends, listeners. I need to talk to you about some things that have been on TV recently which I've just been thinking about so much because there's so much dog training in these two particular shows that I've watched recently. You know, never, ever did I think that becoming a dog trainer would make me think so much about cult leaders and also like sociopaths. One of these stories is about cult leader. The other is about a sociopath, actually, they might be both cult leaders and sociopaths in their own ways. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Three funny things and one terrible thing just happened | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 609

Alternative titles Annie thought of for this episode:  -Toddlers are hilarious and death sucks -And the dog dies in the end Annie is doing a Q and A.  Join at  If you like this podcast, go leave a review on iTunes please. Thanks!   Instagram: @annie.grossman, @schoolforthedogs --- Partial Transcript: Annie: So, I think I'm posting this as a bonus episode because I already have an episode ready to go for tomorrow. But a couple of things happened in the last 24 hours I wanted to share three are silly and just funny. One isn't. So like the first three things are all funny mom/dog training-related things. My friend, Lori, sent me a text message, well she sent it to this mom group that I'm in on WhatsApp. She's been trying to wean him at night, wean him, so he won’t nurse at night. Actually, her son is one day older than Magnolia. So she wrote, Elliot is obsessed with morning and the sun because I told him we nurse in the morning when the sun comes up but not at night. So now, any old time, he says, “morning, sun, nursing, nursing.” And outside, he will suddenly point at this sky and say, “Sun, nursing, boobs.” So he's making long speeches where the only recognizable words are “sun,” “boob,” “nursing, “morning.” Just thought it was a funny example of classical conditioning, how he has this need to nurse now when he sees the sun. It’s kind of funny. Oh then I was thinking about it, a lot of animals must associate signs of morning with, “hey, its time to eat,” “hey, mom- person, feed me.” One of the other funny things have happened was I got a new like pop socket for my phone to hold on in the back and the pop socket thing comes on this piece of cardboard that's kind of like the size and shape of a phone, and she grabbed onto this thing, and has been using it as a phone for the last couple days. And one of the very first things she did was to hold it up to her toy dog as if she was showing her dog to someone. And I sent it to Alix Kris, head of marketing, she wrote back, “dog momager in the making,” which I thought was pretty funny. She doesn't have a lot of words yet but one word she does have is “shoes,” which she says, “oohg”. And she's always talking about “oohg”, and whenever we're on the phone with her with her grandparents or whoever, and we try and get her to say the words, her big word right now which is shoes. You know, we ask her to say it when she's doing Facetime so as she was holding up the phone to her toy dog, she was holding it in front of him and saying, “oohg, oohg.” put it up on my Instagram and stories, made me laugh. And then the other thing that made me laugh so hard and Jason wasn't around, it was just me so I couldn't even share it with anyone but I was like cracking up, it seemed so funny to me... Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Dog Training Q and A! 10/8/2020: Reactive Dogs, food toys, management of space | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 3192

Join Annie Grossman for a live Q and A most Thursdays. Sign up at  Have a question? Visit or upload a recording at Here, Annie takes the following questions:  How can you train a dog to not freak out if strange dogs, off leash, appear out of no where?  What work-to-eat toys can you use with wet or fresh food?  Can you train a dog to stay away from the litter box and the cat food?  A dog likes playing fetch but doesn't like going on walks. Is fetch going to be enough exercise for him?  A new rescue dog barks all night at nothing in particular. Why? And how can you get him to stop barking?  How can you get a dog to pee on a curb instead of on trees?  --- Partial Transcript: [Intro] Annie: Hey everyone. This is a  bonus Q and A episode. I try and answer questions live every Thursday.  You can sign up to come to my free live Q and A at  And you will see the next one I’m doing. I then am trying to take  recordings of those Q and A’s and post them here to the podcast feed. If  you have a question, you can email me directly at annie@school for the  dogs. You can also go to and record your question there. Thanks for being here. You know, I was just thinking about how, when, when I used to work at an  office, which was not for very long, but in my early twenties, it was  so wonderful to have like an IT person, like just someone there, like  when something doesn’t work, you can be like, excuse me. I remember this  one great IT guy’s name was Ramon would just be like, Ramon, my mouse  won’t click won’t make the right clicky sound, or whatever, like  whatever little thing, and Ramon would be there and he would fix it or  he’d like, go to get me like another computer or whatever. Like, don’t  you like, I mean, I haven’t had that for a long time because I’ve been, I was just thinking that I bet right now in the, in the moment of COVID everybody working from home, that a lot of people are missing their…  people are missing their IT people. That’s the moment of greatest  appreciation for IT people. I say that because every time I have to do anything, I feel like I need a friking IT person. It’s like, it’s see right now, I’m trying to like  record on in Audacity, which is what I record the podcast in while  recording on whatever else, this thing is that I’m recording in. And,  and it’s like, doesn’t want me to do it. Like it’s….I mean, the amount  of stuff you have to figure out as an adult person is just beyond, like,  there’s just like, like life involves so much paperwork and so much  figuring things out. All right. Hi, Annie Grossman here I am answering dog training questions. I have a  few lined up. This went well last week. So it went well. I mean, getting  some questions in the chat area here I’m doing this on Instagram live  at the same time and you…if you want to ask the question, do it through  the computer  at Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Be your dog's superhero: An interview with UK-based trainer and pet business coach Dominic Hodgson | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 3451

Here's a cool approach to dog training: Teach your dog that you are a benevolent god. A superhero, if you will. That is UK-based trainer Dominic Hodgson's approach. In this episode, Annie interviews Dom about his journey from actor to tobacco salesman to dog walker to dog trainer to pet business consultant through his company, Grow Your Pet Business Fast. Annie learns about several dog business areas she never considered, and gets some great business advice from this titan in the field.  Join Annie for a FREE Q and A next week! Sign up at Head over to Dom's Podcast, The Poodle To Pitbull Pet Business Podcast, to hear Dom interview Annie!  How To Be Your Dog's Superhero! Free offer from Dom: 33 marketing ideas for pet business professionals  Enjoy this podcast? Please leave a 5-star rating and review on iTunes! Learn more about School For The Dogs at  --- Partial Transcript: Annie: There’s this thing that dog trainers  sometimes say, which is that the only thing two dog trainers can agree  on is that the other person is doing everything wrong. And, you know, I  kind of hate that kind of way of looking at things. It’s not how I see  things. I do think that there are some good dog trainers out there and  bad dog trainers. There’s maybe two large categories of dog trainers,  but there are so many good dog trainers who are doing so many cool  things and I’m always excited to learn about what they’re doing. Today’s  conversation is with a dog trainer who is indeed doing so many cool  things. I am speaking to Dom Hodgson who went from being an actor to  being a tobacco salesman to starting his own dog-walking business,  realized he needed to learn about dog training in order to be a better  walker. And now he is a pet business coach and he has his own podcast  called the Poodle to Pit Bull pet business podcast.  I am on his podcast this week and he is on mine. And this meant that we  got to have two really great conversations recently. So if you want to  learn more about me, head over to his podcast, if you want to learn more  about him, keep on listening. I’m thrilled to be able to share this  conversation with you. *Intro* Dom: Hello, and thank you for having me on the show, Annie. My  name’s Dom Hodgson. I am a dog trainer, a pet business coach and a  regular dog owner slash lover. And I live in Sunderland, which is a city  in the Northeast of England, probably near Newcastle. That’s probably  where most of your listeners will maybe be familiar with the nearest. Annie: What is your business called? Dom: So there are two, well, three, two main kind of arms to the business. So my original business, was Pack Leader Dog Adventures... Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 Q and A! 10/1/2020: A new nervous rescue dog, working with dog barking, and helping a dog potty outside | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2514

Join Annie for a live Q and A most Thursdays. Sign up at Have a question? Email or upload a recording at  Here, Annie takes the following questions:  A new young rescue dog seems to be nervous about some men but not others. Why? A dog is barking: Do you need to say "quiet" and do you reward even if the dog is barking? What do you do when a Shih Tzu won't go to the bathroom in the yard? Why didn't an adolescent male become less aggressive after being neutered? My dog is going crazy because the neighbor's dog is in heat! This puppy will not stop biting my feet! Why! How do I teach my Pomsky not to pull? The following products are available at Ruffwear Front Range Harness - Freedom Harness - Liquid Treat Dispenser - K9 Sport Sack - Flirt Poles --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hey everyone. This is a bonus Q and A episode. I try and answer questions live every Thursday. You can sign up to come to my free live Q and A at And you will see the next one I'm doing. I then am trying to take recordings of those Q and A's and post them here to the podcast feed. If you have a question, you can email me directly annie@schoolforthedogs. You can also go to and record your question there. Thanks for being here. Hey guys, Annie Grossman here. I am live answering dog training questions today, and we're starting with this one from Rachel. “So my husband and I had just started listening to your podcast. When we adopted our puppy, Penny. She's a total sweetheart and very passive. When you go to get her, she just rolls over and wants belly rubs. We brought her home a few days ago and she met our neighbor and loved him. However, after a day of settling in, she began barking at him whenever we were outside or going for walks. Also on our walk, she started barking at all older men. She met another neighbor who was a younger man, and she did not bark at all. She's only six months and we are hopeful we can get her comfortable with some training, any advice or guidance with this. Thank you, Rachel.” Annie: So great question, Rachel, and I'm glad that you're dealing with this on the sooner side because you know, so many behaviors that can develop into, you know, behaviors that are really difficult and dangerous stem from fear. And it sounds like you're noticing that Penny is a little bit fearful of your neighbor. Now, you know, it's possible that, you know, it looks like you're noticing a pattern that it's men. It's possible she had some kind of bad experience with a man in the past and that's causing this behavior.  It's possible also that she just wasn't really exposed to that many men before this who knows, but rather than worrying too much about what's causing her to be this way, I would just really focus on how you can help her feel good about whatever men are around her. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:

 What is a bully stick? A very detailed answer to an awkward question... | File Type: audio/x-m4a | Duration: 2639

Dogs love to chew on bully sticks. We sell loads of them every day at School For The Dogs, and, very often, people ask what they are. The answer? They're penises! This answer makes some people giggle, some gag and then there are those, like Annie, who are just left with more questions. In this episode, Annie interviews Greg Claypool, a second-generation bully stick fabricator, about the origins of this canine delicacy, how they're produced, and what you can do in order to make sure your purchasing ones that don't stink (literally). Warning: This episode is pretty graphic!   Bully sticks at  Bully Sticks Direct Bully Stick Ball Jerky  Turkey Tendon Strips  Blog post: Dogs love bull penises, and you will, too  Related episode: A better mousetrap: Building the perfect bully stick holder  Bull Penis Canes: Four Ways To Sautee a Sow's Vulva: Toast Garden: --- Partial Transcript: Annie: I am testing out a new community platform. If you like this episode, and you would like to discuss it with other podcast listeners, please go to Make an account, it's totally free. If you would like to ask any dog training questions you can do so there as well. Thanks for helping me beta test this new platform. *Intro* Annie: In my career as a professional dog person over the last 10 years or so, I have developed some weird sub interests. Some of which are kind of gross. For instance, over the last few years, I've thought a lot about how we carry dog poop. I have thought deeply about poop bags and poop bag accoutrements. I have also thought a lot about certain dead animal body parts and no body part of any dead animal has taken up quite as much brain space for me as the bully stick, which is a dried bull penis that dogs love to chew on. Particularly as someone who has sold many bully sticks in her life, I have often found myself in the awkward position of having to explain to people that it really is made out of a dried bull penis, which is a conversation that has just concluded with giggles many, many times. Full Transcript available at --- Send in a voice message: Support this podcast:


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