How To Train Your Dog With Love And Science - Dog Training with Annie Grossman, School For The Dogs show

How To Train Your Dog With Love And Science - Dog Training with Annie Grossman, School For The Dogs

Summary: Journalist-turned-dog trainer Annie Grossman, owner of NYC-based dog training center School For The Dogs and author of How To Train Your Dog With Love & Science (Sourcebooks, 6/2024), is obsessed with positive reinforcement dog training and thinks you should be, too. This podcast will help dog owners become literate in the basics of behavioral science in order to help their dogs and themselves . Tune in to learn how to use science-based methods to train dogs (and people) without pain, force, or coercion! Show notes at http://s4td.com/pcast (Formerly known as School For The Dogs Podcast)

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 The body builder & the Boston: Joe & Lenny on their journey to Westminster | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:46:06

In 2012, Joe Freni's wife surprised him with a puppy they named Lenny. Lenny, they felt, was simply perfect. In fact, he was so perfect that they decided to start enrolling him in competitions.  In the years since, Lenny has received titles both in dog sports and dog shows, the latter culminating in his recent spot in the Westminster Dog Show. Not long after he started showing his dog in the ring, Joe decided to also start showing... himself. In this episode, Annie learns about Joe's journey as a body builder, a power lifting world champion, and as a show dog handler.   Lenny on Social Media: Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/lennytheboston/ Instagram:  @puppy_kid Twitter:  @LennyandJoeShow YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb9rAnMl99XelUhuyTG7_1w  Shop Lenny Gear: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/lennys-loot Learn more about "The Good Boys of Boston" calendar at @good_boys_of_boston Fun Boston Terrier Facts: http://www.bostonterrierclubofamerica.org/about-boston-terriers/boston-terrier-history.htm Our beloved Boston Terrier student Reggie is on Instagram at @reggieinnyc --- Like this Podcast? Make sure to leave us a 5-start review on iTunes!  --- Partial Transcript: Annie: So I am here today with Joe Freni of Boston and he is the human who belongs a Boston Terrier named Lenny and Joe got in touch with me because he wanted to tell me a little bit about Lenny and I was intrigued because it turns out both Joe and Lenny are kind of both professional physical perfect specimens. Lenny competes in dog shows and Joe  competes and what you might call human shows. He is a bodybuilder and a world champion powerlifter. Of course, you  don't normally encounter bodybuilders in the dog show ring, at least as far as I know, so I wanted to learn more and Joe, thanks so much for taking the time to talk today. Why don’t  you introduce us to your dog Lenny. Joe: So for anyone who's never met Lenny. He’s a fantastic little Boston terrier he is named after Leonard Nimoy a.k.a. Spock in Star Trek due to the pointy ears and the fact that we’re huge, you know, Star Trek nerds. Annie:  You know it's funny as I almost named my dog, Lenny, after Lennie Briscoe on Law and Order. Joe: No way. Annie: And I also once met another dog named Lenny named after Leonard Bernstein. So there are lots of dogs named after people it seems. Joe: Leonard Nimoy is also from Boston which we thought was really cool. So Lenny is six and half years old, we got Lenny as a puppy about 10 weeks old, I believe. My wife actually actually got him, she completely surprised me with Lenny, I had no idea that we were getting him. I've always loved Boston Terriers and we actually had three Boston Terriers prior to Lenny so they were all rescues and this was our first first Boston Terrier from a breeder.... Full Transcript available at Schoolforthedogs.com/Podcasts

 Are you talking to your socks? Marie Kondo, Cesar Millan & training humans with snake oil | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:35:34

The sprightly Japanese organizing guru Marie Kondo has gained worldwide acclaim for essentially being an excellent trainer of humans. Specifically, she trains people to "tidy up" their homes. While she might be adept at using positive reinforcement (mostly in the form of her sheer enthusiasm about junk drawers) and other methods that dovetail with Good Dog Training, her approach also  encourages people to attach their actions to part in certain bizarre "superstitious" behaviors. like verbally "thanking" pieces of clothing and "waking up" sleeping books by tapping them. In this episode, Annie, who believes that  behavior-changing techniques should appeal more to common sense than to magical thinking,  talks about how Kondo and famous dog trainers like Barbara Woodhouse and Cesar Millan douse snake oil over their proposed solutions in order to suggest that clutter is caused by sleeping books,  dogs love the letter T, and nice leash walking can only happen if you channel amorphous invisible powers.  Notes:  Marie Kondo on Netflix - Marie Kondo's book: The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up - Marie Kondo on The Late Show w/ Stephen Colbert, 2/5/2019 - Marie Kondo on Jimmy Kimmel Live, 1/29/2019 - Cesar Millan clip quoted in podcast, in which Millan tells the dog owner that her dog's won't listen to her unless she is "calm and assertive" and "injecting energy" into them while walking. - Barbara Woodhouse, dog trainer who throws books at dogs.  Clip in podcast is taken from here - On doing dishes and peeing  The following are blog posts about The Dog Training Triad. Each post contains the podcast episodes on the same subjects, which were I posted last July  (Episodes 16, 17 and 18) Part 1: Management  Part 2: Rewards Part 3: Timing --- Partial Transcript: [Intro] Annie: Hey there, humans. So today I want to talk about someone who has been making the rounds on talk shows, and just generally in the news a lot, her name is Marie Kondo. And if you live under a rock and you don't know who I'm talking about, she is an expert on tidying up. In fact, her new Netflix series is called "Tidying Up" but years before this Netflix show, she was already quite well known for her book, The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up. Now, I know you're listening to this and you're saying to yourself, hold on, this is a dog training podcast. Why are we talking about this young Asian woman who helps people clean out their closets?  Well, it actually has to do with superstition or what dog trainers call superstitious behaviors. Now you might be surprised that dogs are superstitious as are people, of course.  And I'll talk a little bit more in a minute about what dog superstition looks like. I think you probably already know about human superstitions, like wearing a certain pair of socks so that your favorite baseball team wins or not walking under a ladder or crossing a black cat... Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts

 Ask Annie: Separation anxiety, tips for crate training and an overview of attachment theory | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:51:40

In this Q+A episode, Annie answers a question from a puppy owner whose dog is scared of the crate and stresses out when left alone, and then considers another dog owner who asks if "Attachment Theory" applies to dogs. Visit AnnieGrossman.com/ask or leave a voicemail at 917-414-2625. NOTES Products: Annie's preferred crate, the Revol (get $25 off the Revol with code SFTD25 at checkout through March 31, 2019) - See through pen on Etsy by ClearlyLovedPets - See through crate on Etsy by PrettyKennels - Treat and Train - The Toppl toy Books:  Treating Separation Anxiety in Dogs by Malena Demartini-Price  -  I'll Be Home Soon by Patricia McConnell, PhD Sites:  Evolutionary Parenting article on Attachment Theory and Attachment Parenting by Tracy Cassel PhD  Shoutout:  You can witness Gilby and Ghost's playdates at @GhostFrench  and @GilbyKriss Fun Dog Fact:  The Beatles song that contains a secret dog whistle --- Partial Transcript: [Intro] Annie: Hello humans. Today I am going to be answering some dog training questions that have come down the pipeline. If you have a question you'd like answered in a future Q&A episode, you can find us on Instagram @schoolforthedogs. You can send a direct message.  Or go to Anniegrossman.com/ask and you'll find a nifty little form there. So our first question comes through Instagram from a listener named B. She writes: "Hi Annie. I've just finished listening to your crate training episode. I love how no nonsense you are with most subjects, and this one is of particular interest to me. My husband and I fostered a few dogs before we adopted.  All the dogs we had before, including puppies and adults slept in a crate.  However, our last foster and now adopted member of the family hates the crate. He'll go in if there's food, but if the door closes he immediately loses it and won't eat.  He tries to eat the bars, jumps up and throws himself against the bars, and generally cries until you open the door. We've also tried pens, et cetera. We want to crate train for all the reasons you mentioned on the podcast and also because I want him to stop sleeping in our bed. He moves around and I'm always scared he'll fall off. He was rescued from a puppy mill. And I've been following the Best Friend's guidelines, which say that some dogs will never adapt to crates after being born in a puppy mill. He is five months old. He also hates pens. I've tried covering the crate to make it more den like, but he barks and jumps the whole time. Occasionally he goes quiet. I've even filmed him and left the apartment, and he keeps jumping and barking until I’m back. "He is very happy when he's let out. He also won't eat if he knows he's closed in the pen or crate. He's very stuck to me in general... Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts

 Let's talk about dog breeding with Cherrie Mahon of River Valley Doodles | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 01:16:32

A few years ago, after years of volunteering at rescue organizations and owning both shelter pups and purebred dogs, Cherrie Mahon, a professor of business in Rochester, New York, did something that'd change her life forever: She got a Goldendoodle.  Cherrie fell in love with the breed, and pitched an idea to her mother, a school bus driver who was looking for a retirement career: Maybe they could start a family business breeding doodles? In the years since, Cherrie, her mother, her sisters and a few cousins have  been in the business of bringing fluffy dreams to life for hundreds of happy families. But there are plenty of moments that haven't been so... golden. Cherrie and Annie have an honest discussion about the way people acquire dogs, the science of good breeding, and the emotional rollercoaster of rearing puppies.  NOTES RVD Online: RiverValleyDoodles.com - @RiverValleyDoodles   Breeding resources referenced by Cherrie:  MistyTrails' content can be found here - Puppy Intensive Care - On wolves and poodles - If you really want to geek out on dog genetics, this slide show is for you. Gets into poodles/wolves around the 4th minute - Also see Chapter 13 of Man and Wolf: Advances, Issues, and Problems in Captive Wolf Research - On Goldendoodles and "back crosses" Some of School For The Dogs' students from River Valley Doodles: @neptune - @ollie_bear_doodle - @freyadood - @joeyandbeau - @juliettethedoodle Woof Shout Out: Learn more about Gary, aka Garebear, an adorable and adoptable young Frenchie who currently being fostered in the East Village, at http://instagram.com/buckysfostercrew --- Partial Transcript: Hello humans. Thank you for listening. I am here with my seven week old baby, Magnolia. Again, I've tried to figure out times where I could podcast where she is not going to interrupt with adorable baby noises, but I've decided to just go with it. And so, I now have a little grunting cooing, occasional co-host who might just be the youngest podcast host out there. Also, perhaps the only nonverbal one. If you're enjoying School for the Dogs’ podcast, please do subscribe on iTunes while you're there. Leave a review and give us a five star rating. It's a good way to let other people know that this is something worth listening to. And if you're on Instagram tag us in your stories or in your feed, send a DM. We love to hear from you. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 New "Diggs" for your dog: Zel Crampton's dog crate revolution | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:44:59

We use dog crates every day at School For The Dogs. They're an integral part of dog training: We recommend them to clients who are house training puppies, incorporate them into class exercises, and transport dogs in them. And yet, all of us who work at our training center agree: Crates... kind of suck! They're clunky and ugly! Noisy! Storing them is a pain, and when you have to open and then collapse them all day long (like we do), you're going to suffer pinched fingers. It has long seemed like a problem with no solution, but Zel Crampton might just be our white knight. Crampton is the founder of Diggs, a product development company whose flagship item, the Revol, is a crate that just might change everything... In this episode, he and Annie talk about the problem with crates, and the "revolution" that he foresees.  Notes:  Find the Revol at StoreForTheDogs - Through 3/31/19, get $25 off your Revol crate purchase from StoreForTheDogs.com with code SFTD25 - 10 innovative crates - Database of dogs licensed in NYC (last updated in 2017) - The Treat And Train In this episode, Annie spoke about how she wished there were a collar that could vibrate but not shock a dog; most vibrating collars are also shock collars. But after recording the episode, she was told about one! Witness the Dogwidgets "No Shock E-Collar Pet Trainer" --- Partial Transcript: Annie: So I am here with Zel Crampton, founder of Diggs.  Is that how you call the company or is it Diggs pet products? Zell: Just Diggs. Annie: And I wanted to talk to Zel today because he has a product that is innovative in a bunch of ways, which we will talk about, but I think interesting to me in part because it's really like the only innovative thing in the world and the world is crates. At School for the Dogs we have maybe a dozen crates. They're really important. We use them every day, all the time. And nobody likes them. I would say these crates have no fans, but they're clunky. They hurt your fingers when you have to close them and open them all the time, which we do everyday, all day. They're noisy, they fall over, they, they're ugly. But they're totally necessary. Like we couldn't live without them. And yet I don't think anybody who works at School for the Dogs would have any nice things to say about any of them. And what you're doing in the world of crates is, it gives me hope that  there is a future that could be better for this product. But I know Diggs has two products and why don't you tell us about those two products and then we can talk about how you got into this world. Zel: Sure. So our flagship product is the Diggs Revol dog crate. As you just rightfully said, crates are ugly, hard to use, unsafe, noisy, hard to collapse, hard to transport. Frankly, they're an abysmal product, when you consider other consumer categories, like they just haven't been changed in 50 years. They're just the same old ugly wire thing that for some reason never got, never innovated. Annie: Why? Zel: I'll give you my opinion. I don't know for a fact, but I actually think that the history of the pet industry is really that, you know, pets used to be property, right? And they're legally speaking, they are still property, but people used to view the pets as their property, right? I'm a dog owner. Right. Annie: Or a master? That's what my dad used to call himself, growing up. He was the art dog's master. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Teaching a stellar "Down" with a verbal or visual cue | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:33:55

Every dog already knows how to lie down -- your dog lies down all the time! The trick to training a "down" is to teach your dog to do it when you ask for it. That involves adding a cue. In this episode, Annie addresses the difference between a "cue" and a "command," and talks about some of the pitfalls people tend to fall into when attempting to cue a dog -- is the dog responding to your words? Or your body language? Or both? Or neither?! Annie goes over how to teach a "down" using two methods: Capturing, and luring. For the former, she describes how to use a verbal cue. For the latter, she explains how to morph a lured down into a down that is a response to a clear and subtle visual cue. The result is a dog who will understand what you want in as little as just one training session. Also make sure to see our recent episode on training "Sit." http://anniegrossman.com/2018/08/podcast/podcast-episode-19-train-dog-sit-scratch/9711/ Are you enjoying this podcast? Please leave it a 5-star rating and write a review on iTunes! If you have a training question you'd like answered, submit it at http://AnnieGrossman.com/ask School: http://schoolforthedogs.com  Shop: http://storeforthedogs.com  Instagram: http://instagram.com/schoolforthedogs  Facebook Group: http://facebook.com/groups/schoolforthedogs Partial Transcript:  Annie: Hello humans, thank you for tuning in to School for the Dogs podcast. As some of you know, I had a baby almost a month ago. I've been trying to find the perfect time to record this podcast all day and waiting for her to take a nap or at least be quiet for a while and finally decided I needed to do it while feeding her bottle so if you hear adorable little sucking and gurgling noises, that is my daughter who is a foot away from the microphone guzzling down some milk. So sorry sorry that the extra noise, maybe we can just pretend that baby Magnolia here is my co host. Listen to these adorable sounds, you can't make this kinda stuff up… and that was my dog snorting. Anyway, if you enjoy this podcast, just want to remind you that you can help me out by sharing it with your dog-loving friends. You can do this in multiple ways, you can take a picture of your podcast player and share it on social media, on your stories or your feed. Let other dog lovers know that this is out there. If you tag School for the Dogs, we will go ahead and share in our stories too. Also leave us a rating and review on iTunes- very much appreciated. I love reading your iTunes reviews, it really helps me figure out what you find interesting and what I can offer more of and if you have a question you can send a direct message on Instagram, you can also go to Annie Grossman.com/ask and I will do my best to respond. Today I wanted to go over how to teach your dog to lie down and as I mentioned in the episode I did a few months ago on teaching the dog to sit - obviously lying down is something your dog already knows how to do good, your dog lies down all the time-the trick is of course to teach your dog to lie down when you ask him or her to do it. So it's really just about adding a cue to a behavior your dog already knows and, like many dog trainers, use the word cue instead of the word command although if you want to say command instead of cue that's okay with me. Full transcript available at SchoolForTheDogs.com/Podcast

 Let’s talk about dogs & babies with Jessica Jacobson of Dapper Dog Training | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:49:54

You might consider your dog your "baby," but what happens if you decide to add an actual infant to your family? Jessica Jacobson, owner of NYC's Dapper Dog Training, has spent years coaching families on prepping their dogs for the arrival of a tiny non-furry new family member. Annie and she discuss how she built her career, and go over some key things to consider when training a dog for interspecies sibling-hood. Notes:  Dapper Dog Training - Marilyn Ullman of the "Discover Your Dream Career" course - Association of Professional Dog Trainers' annual conference - Nursing Your Baby by Karen Pryor - Snuggle Puppies - Annie's baby! - Music: "Hello Ma Baby" ukulele cover by The Channel Drifters --- Partial Transcript: **music** Annie: Hi everyone. Thank you so much for listening. Before we get into the meat of today's show, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has left reviews on iTunes. It's a really great way to let people know about this podcast. If you're enjoying it, please do leave a review. And Instagram stories has also been a fun way that people have let others know about the podcast. If you take a screenshot and share in stories and tag School for the Dogs on Instagram, we will reshare it. And it really feels good to know that we're reaching people. So today I am talking to my friend, fellow dog trainer, Jessica Jacobson, who has her own dog training business in New York City. And I wanted to talk to her both to just find out how she got into dog training and built her business, but also specifically because she has something of an expertise on preparing dogs for the arrival of a baby. And I have a baby on the way so I was hoping she might be able to give me some tips on getting Amos, my Yorkiepoo ready for this life event. Jessica: Hello? Hi. My name is Jessica and my company is called Dapper Dog training and I'm stoked to be here. Annie: And we've known each other actually for a long time now. Jessica: Yeah Annie: We met in Atlanta at the APDT dog conference dog conference. Jessica: 30000 years ago. Annie: 2010 it was. I remember it was 2010, cause it was right after I finished Karen Pryor Academy. Jessica: Oh yeah. Annie: Was that the first time you'd ever been to the association? APDT is the Association for Professional Dog Training? Jessica; Yes. I think it was my second conference or maybe my first. I don't remember, but I remember when I saw you and we had gotten together because I think I was listed on the APDT website as having a dog trainer meetup. Annie: Yeah, yeah. Which is actually also, I think how I met Kate was through your meetup. But that was like a real seminal moment for me because it was the first time that I was sort of immersed in a group of dog trainers outside of the two other people in my class at KPA. Jessica: It's like social crack. Annie: Yeah. It was a bit. It was also, it was just so interesting to meet people doing it, like all people from all over the country and also meeting different kinds of dog trainers and cause Association Professional Dog Training is not strictly, um... Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 French Bulldog Lola Barksdale: A Floofdragon's guide to Instagram stardom | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:49:49

When we first met Lola Barksdale,  she was a tiny Frenchie puppy in our Kindergarten classes. We had no idea that she would become an Instagram star, or that she was secretly obsessed with unicorns and alpacas, loved purple fruit loops and waffles (which she calls "woofles,"), considered herself a "floofdragon" and had hobbies including interior decorating and counting her own feet. The genius behind her account is her human, Rachel Rednor. Rachel works in finance, but during her bathroom breaks at the office, she has developed an entire character for her little dog, built through photos and captions.  Annie talked to Rachel about creating, and managing, her dog's Internet celebrity.  Notes:  @lolabarksdale - twitter.com/dog_feelings - #sukiisadopted - French Bulldog Club Of America - Music: Ukulele cover of "Play a Simple Melody" by JazzBanjoRex --- Partial Transcript: Annie: I am here with Rachel Redner. I met Rachel and her husband, Matt about six years ago when they did a lesson with me with their brand new puppy. Lola, who is this tiny, fawn colored, would you say? Rachel: I, we call her cream. Annie: Cream French bulldog, who was just, just the cutest little like potato of a dog. [laughing] She has like no neck, which adds to her adorableness, I think. And, they actually started doing classes when School for the Dogs was located in my apartment, which is where we are right now.  In a previous iteration, it was the School for the Dogs classroom. And I wanted to talk to Rachel for this episode because, I think even before dogs on Instagram were sort of a thing, she had an account for Lola on Instagram.  And I started following it and just sort of became obsessed with Lola's Instagram and was like, who is this person writing it? I mean, I knew it was Rachel, but it wasn't, it wasn't the voice of the woman who works in finance, who I had met in her apartment. It was the voice of this hilarious, um, tiny French bulldog. And I think a lot of people kind of develop a voice for their dogs, but I think, you do it better than most. So why don't we talk quickly? Just tell me about how Lola came into your life. Rachel: Sure. So my husband and I had different views on a dog in general. I had grown up with a dog and he grew up in a very animal free house and was not that interested in the idea of a dog, but I was very persistent. And when we moved to Manhattan, there were Frenchies. That started to be everywhere. They weren't as kind of everywhere as they are now, but they were-- Annie: Where did you move from? Rachel: We moved from college. We met in Syracuse and then we moved to the city. Uh, we were local. We grew up here, but not really in Manhattan.  You know, so you don't get that much exposure to all the different breeds of dogs when you're living in the suburbs. So we moved to Manhattan and we started seeing Frenchies and I had thought I wanted a beagle. And then I read somewhere one time and it was, this was all, it took me that beagles are terrible in the city because they just have their nose to the ground.  And it's really, really hard to manage that. So I said, okay, let's forget. But we started seeing Frenchies everywhere. And I don't remember if we looked it up or we just talked about it, but we started this obsession that just kind of grew. And the worst of it was we would follow people with Frenchies around the city. Full transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Dog training pet peeves: The word "energy" and the misuse of the word "positive" | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:51:31

In the modern era of dog training, people often rush to blame a person or a dog's "energy" for behavior issues.  In this episode, Annie addresses why all the talk about using or observing "energy" in order to train a dog makes her cringe, and also why she thinks the misuse of the word "positive" leads to too many misunderstandings about science-based training.  Notes: John Watson's Psychology As The Behaviorist Views It - Free eBook edition Fun Dog Fact Of The Day: Rowlf the Muppet was invented in order to sell dog food! Here he is making his debut in the early 1960s in a Purina commercial where he convinces his friend that dog chow is better than asparagus.  Then he eats his kibble with a spoon. --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hello human listeners. So today I am going to talk about some of my pet peeves when it comes to dog training, specifically, words people use in the dog training domain that drive me a little bit nuts. Now,  if you've listened to this podcast before you might know that I generally think we use too many words with dogs in general. Too much talking goes on. I think we rely far too heavily on language when it comes to dog training. Considering that of all the many, many things that dogs and humans have alike, considering that we're both mammals living in the same time and place and environment and climate, etc, etc., language is a big thing, at least verbal language, is a big thing we don't have in common and I think there is too much focus on it in dog training. But I was specifically talking about, uh, words that we use with each other to discuss dog training. And you know, I think that these words that I want to talk about, two words in particular, I think they kind of speak to some of the divides that exist in the dog training field. And I know as someone who came to dog training from a totally different career, totally different place that a lot of the disputes that exist among different dog trainers can just seem like insider baseball to those who exist outside of the world of dog training. And again, because I come from that place, I totally get it. I get that people probably have this point of view before they are,  sort of, in the world of training with their own dog or just because they're interested. I know that this point of view exists of, like, why does this matter? Why are you having these, you know, niggling observations about someone else doing something as simple as teaching a dog to sit. It's silly. He trained a dog to do something. The dog is trained. That's it. It's done. End of story. Let's not lose sleep over this. There are far more important things in the world to worry about. And I mean obviously I no longer feel that way because I see the extremes of how people approach dog training. And in my opinion, not only is it a matter of ethics, how we treat our dogs, but thinking about how we train them and how their learning I think has a lot to do with how we treat each other and how we treat our children and how our children learn to treat each other and to treat animals. And there's certainly an aspect of animal welfare that has to do with training. And there are a lot of dogs who I think are hurt more than we realized more than we realize  because of the widespread acceptance of dog training methods that I and many others consider inhumane.  But that kind of I think get lumped together under this dog training heading of... this heading of dog training and all the things that fall under it.. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Training "Look" using the "Invisible Triangle" method | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:36:35

Everyone is impressed by a dog whose eyes meets a human's gaze with magnet-like intensity on cue. Teaching a dog to "touch" his or her eyes to your eyes is a great exercise to practice no matter what the pooch's training level is. When teaching this attention-based behavior to a dog-- whether you use a word such as "Look" or the dog's name -- Annie suggests focusing on your training mechanics before jumping to setting criteria for your dog. In this episode, she clearly breaks down how to build a stellar "Look" cue from scratch, in just six quick steps, using only sixty tiny treats.  Notes: Treat suggestions - Tricky Trainers (and other brands that make these pencil-eraser sized morsels) can be broken up into at least four pieces, meaning you'll go through only 15 treats in your session: storeforthedogs.com/products/tricky-trainers - Lamb lung breaks up into neat pieces without getting greasy or crumbly: storeforthedogs.com/products/lamb-lung - Happy Howies rolls can be sliced and then diced into very small bits: storeforthedogs.com/products/happy-howies-food-rolls\ Dogs and presidents: https://read.bi/2SrAVxu "Look For The Silver Lining" ukulele cover by Renei Yarrow: youtube.com/watch?v=CDIHff9eESQ Partial Transcript: **music** Annie: Hello, everyone. Thank you for listening. Today I’m going to walk you through what I call the Invisible Triangle method of teaching “look.” I think look is a really excellent thing to teach any dog, any age some people call it “watch me” or “attention,” whatever you want to call it, basically you’re teaching your dog to connect their eyes to your eyes on whatever cue you give. And of course that cue, today we’re going to use “look” you could be using their name,  you could say “eyes,”  you could say “bubblegum baba ganoush.,”  it doesn't matter but you are to give it some kind of cue. Of course, if you don’t give it a cue and you just teach them that locking eyes with your eyes is always a good thing that certainly not a bad thing to teach either. I generally think that everything we train our dogs to do, pretty much, comes down to targeting- targeting being teaching them to touch one thing to another. Of course, pretty much the first thing I teach every dog I work with is to hand-nose target so to touch their nose to my fingers, to my hand or to touch their nose to an object. And while there are lots of reasons I like to teach this specific exercise, the big reason is that I think of it as a building block exercise that you can use to teach lots of different things because really what you’re teaching is if you touch X to Y then good thing happens and basically everything you’re ever going to train your dog comes down to something that can fit into that equation. Sit is if if you touch butt to ground. Down is if you touch body to the ground.  Go to the crate, well, that's if I touch body to crate. And I think that teaching look is really just the same thing except that if I touch my eyes to my human eyes good thing happens . And like I just said, certainly if that becomes just the default behavior, it's never going to be a bad thing since if your dog locks eyes with you, you certainly have your dog's attention and that's a great starting place for getting your dog to do whatever it is you want or need him or her to do... Full Transcript at Schoolforthedogs.com/Podcasts

 Part 2: How I used punishment to train my husband to cover his mouth when he yawns | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:48:20

In this episode, Annie offers a follow up to the previous episode, which featured a candid conversation with her husband about her ill-fated attempt to use punishment to keep him from showing her his uvula very time he yawned. Here, she points out some of the similarities and differences between using punishment with dogs and with humans. This episode touches on, among other things: -The long shadow punishment can cast -How language can offer clarification... or not -The subjective nature of "bad" behavior -Choosing appropriate punishers (and reinforcers) -The issue with a "Nothing In Life Is Free" approach to training -The importance of wisely selecting a training subject who isn't inclined to exhibit copious unwanted behaviors Notes: How I used punishment to train my husband to cover his mouth when he yawns (Part 1): - Parentonomics-- a book that discusses the trap of toilet training a child with jelly beans - Plenty In Life Is Free by Kathy Sdao - Have a question for our upcoming Q + A episode? Ask it at AnnieGrossman.com/ask --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hello listeners. So last episode, if you heard it was a conversation with my husband, Jason, about an instance where I tried to change a behavior of his that I didn't like by using punishment and the episode was a conversation about this, this debacle, let's call it. I got a bunch of questions about the whole thing. The specific behavior of course was that I was trying to get him to stop yawning with his mouth wide open. I was trying to train him to cover his mouth and the episode led to a lot of questions and I realized that it was sort of maybe like giving everybody a primary source without offering enough commentary and dissection about the whole thing. And I think that it's an anecdote that actually contains a lot of lessons that are applicable to all kinds of behavioral training, whether you're training a dog or your husband. Certainly  it was a failed attempt. So might be helpful if you go back and listen to that episode before listening to this episode. The real meaty part starts about halfway through if you want to cut to the chase. The first thing I wanted to point out in looking at the whole incident, which Jason refers to as a “yawngate” is really how arbitrary and silly it is that, of course, that this was the thing I decided I was going to try and train. That this was the behavior that I was going to try and punish. So often with dogs, we're inclined to categorize behaviors as a good behavior or a bad behavior. But in the end, they're all just behaviors. And whether or not they're good or bad depends on who is making the judgment.  Plenty of people would not be bothered at all by someone yawning without covering their mouths. And certainly working with dogs as trainers, we see all the time the things that are considered bad behaviors by one dog owner that someone else wouldn't mind at all. For instance, lots of people don't want their dogs on their furniture and other people have no issue with their dogs going on their furniture. My dog barks at the doorbell and I have had people come over and comment on this as if it's an irony that I have a poorly behaved dog who barks at the doorbell when I am in fact a dog trainer. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Part 1: How I used punishment to train my husband to cover his mouth when he yawns | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:41:51

Annie is happily married to a man named Jason Pedicone, who is basically perfect in every way except... he doesn't cover his mouth when he yawns. So, she decided to use her talents as a dog trainer to train him to change this behavior. But she decided to try something she doesn't normally do with dogs: She attempted to curb his habit by using punishment. While she sort of succeeded, she also got a first hand taste at how training using punishment can mar a relationship in unexpected ways. Notes: Pavlov Dog Monitor - Pet Safe Anti-Bark Autotrainer - Jonah Hill on Fresh Air with Terry Gross - Dogs and Yawning - Tips on keeping your dog out of the ER this Thanksgiving - Music: "Hello My Baby" ukulele cover by The Channel Drifters --- Partial Transcript: Jason: Coming to you live from New York state highway 81 North. It's a gray day here on the shores of Lake Ontario. Just came off extraordinarily greasy lunch and we're ready to talk about punishment. **music** Annie: Hello listeners. Doing a little bit of an experiment in podcasting this afternoon. My husband and I are on a little road trip to Montreal and we're gonna be doing some car casting. Is that an actual phrase? I don't know. Podcasting from the car. We'll see how it goes.  I forgot my microphone back at home. So the quality might not be top notch, but the content will be because my husband is here and he's a genius. We are going to talk about punishment. Specifically a punishment in our relationship, more specifically about a specific incident where I attempted to use punishment to change Jason's behavior. But before we get into this particular incident, Jason, why don't you, I'm curious for if you could tell me or our listeners what you, how you would have thought about punishment or how you would have defined punishment prior to your union with a dog trainer. Jason: Yeah, that's a very good question. I guess, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of a punishment is just something bad that happens to someone or something in order to try to discourage it from doing something which is bad. So spanking a child or spraying a cat in the face with a water bottle, something like that. Annie: Yeah. Yeah. Although I think too often and really the technical definition of punishment is that it discourages a behavior. But I think too often it can get wrapped up in the idea that it's something bad. And that I was actually, I was just listening to an interview on Fresh Air with the actor, Jonah Hill, who has a new movie out about skateboarding, and he was talking about how he got really into skateboarding when he was a teenager because it was so, like, I think he described it as punishing and painful and punishing and that made him want to do it more.  And I thought, okay, well I totally understand what he's saying, but actually the pain was reinforcing, not punishing because if it made him want to do it more, then that wouldn't be punishment. Anyway. But,I know you tried to use punishment with the dog that you had before we met, right? Jason: Yeah. Uh, I used to have a dog who was extremely high strung and he was a Papillon and just sort of always very excited. His little body was constantly taut and he barked a lot and he had this issue where, when I went out and left him home alone, he would bark nonstop for hours. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts

 How to shape your dog to go to a mat (and to be a polite Thanksgiving guest) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:33:58

"Shaping" is simply the process of breaking a behavior down to its smallest components and slowly raising your criteria in order to build new behaviors. By reinforcing successive approximations, it's possible to train dogs to do almost anything they are physically capable of doing! In this episode, Annie goes over some key things to think when shaping a new behavior, and describes how to shape a dog to go to a mat, or what she calls a "sticky spot." A dog who knows how to go to a mat will make an excellent guest at holiday dinners: You can "shape" a pup to have a specific spot where he will have learned to stay put and be calm, no matter how good that stuffing smells! Notes: School For The Dogs training mat - Don't Shoot The Dog - Karen Pryor's Ten Laws of Shaping - Fun Dog Fact Of The Day: Karen Pryor's Nursing Your Baby - Woof Shout Out - Share your shaping session with us by tagging @SchoolForTheDogs on Instagram or sharing at Facebook.com/groups/schoolforthedogs. Like this podcast! Please rate us five stars on iTunes! --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hey everyone. So today I wanted to talk about a concept that is really crucial to dog training, but also something that is going to help you with a practical training exercise that you can start working on in preparation for Thanksgiving, which is a time when I think it's a good idea to show off how well your dog is trained to your family and friends. And, of course, that can be challenging because you're often in new places, there's food involved,  there's a lot of commotion. But by playing this little shaping game that I am going to describe over the next week or so, I think that you are going to be able to really demonstrate how savvy your dog is at understanding what you want and just being an overall polite little buddy. Shaping is simply the process of breaking a behavior down to its absolute smallest parts and then positively reinforcing the behavior, raising your criteria at incremental steps. Now, the real trick to shaping is to never raise your criteria too quickly, which means there's kind of an art to shaping I think. And that's an art of really knowing the student you're working with, in this case, a dog so that you can make things harder only at a rate that they're going to be able to still figure out what it is you want. If you make things too hard, too fast, you get an animal who I call it “dropping out of school,” you get an animal who's just like, well, I can't do this, nevermind, goodbye. Now of course, shaping is happening all the time. And certainly school, a human school is a place where we all experience shaping. You start out at school and the criteria is very low. You show up and you do a crayon drawing and no matter how bad it is, everybody's clapping their hands and you put two blocks together and announced that that's the number two. And your teachers and parents will think you're a genius but of course pretty quickly, the criteria of what's expected of you is raised. And by the time you're in high school, you're doing algebra, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, and you didn't get there  in a single leap from your days playing with blocks. The criteria was raised slowly over time with your teachers, step-by-step, raising the bar as far as what was expected of you. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Let's talk about NYC's 1st dog-friendly cafe with Logan Mikhly | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:49:33

Earlier this year Logan Mikhly and her father Coppy Holzman opened a business unlike any other in NYC: A dog-friendly cafe. Logan has a background in animal rescue, Coppy is a dog-loving serial entrepreneur, and both are obsessed with coffee. Frustrated by the fact that New York's health codes make it nearly impossible for them to grab a cup of joe without having to tie their dogs to a streetlight, they contacted the Department of Health for a brainstorming session on how to make a place where beverages and quadrupeds could lawfully co-exist. The result is Boris & Horton. Named after their own dogs, this bright, cheery, and well-loved cafe-cum-indoor-dog-park has quickly become a beloved neighborhood fixture. In this episode, Logan shares the business' back story. Notes: Boris and Horton is located at 195 Avenue A, at the corner of 12th Street. Learn more at BorisAndHorton.com. Other dog friendly cafes: The Bulldog in New Orleans - The Dog Cafe in Los Angeles - Chateau Le Woof in Queens, NY - Products mentioned: Klimb Platforms - Bocce's Bakery Treats - Stewart's Freeze Dried Beef Liver Treats - Nature's Miracle - Fun Dog Fact of the Day:  The CoyoteVest - kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article220971390.html - Woof Shout Out: Last week the world lost a wonderful woman, and dog lover: Ellen Retter. She was a client, a friend, and a big School For The Dogs fan. A photo of Ellen and her dog Lucy training at School For The Dogs with Annie appeared in CNN in 2015. --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Today I am speaking with Logan Mikhly, who is one of the owners of New York city's first and only dog friendly cafe, Boris and Horton, which is in the East village and is named after, well, actually, Logan, why don't you tell us about the cafes namesakes? Logan: I actually have Horton here with me and the other dog that the cafe's named after is Boris and that's my dad's dog. Annie: And Horton, I should say is just the cutest, scruffiest, little like terrier mix who loves nothing more than to stare lovingly at Logan. Logan: Yes, stare deeply into my eyes. He does need a haircut. He looks scruffy, but he looks like a little, maybe a little too scruffy. Annie: I think he's perfectly, perfectly scruffy. Logan: He has like grandpa eyebrows now. Annie: And Logan runs Boris and Horton with her dad. So tell me his name. Logan: Yeah, his name is Coppy Holzman. Okay. So I actually worked with my dad at his previous company, which is called Charity Buzz and it's an online auction company that raises money for nonprofits. So he was in the process of selling the business. Annie: He's something of a serial entrepreneur, isn't that right? Logan: Yes. So for my whole childhood and up until now, he's started several different businesses, sold them. Uh, he's super creative, big ideas guy. But yeah, his previous company, Charity Buzz is an online auction company that raises money for nonprofits. And he was in the process of selling it. And we were actually out to dinner one night and I was staying at the company, but I wasn't kind of like loving the company culture and was thinking about leaving myself. Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts/

 Halloween & Dogs: How to make costumes less scary for pets | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 00:35:01

Halloween can be a scary time… for dogs! But it can also be a time to think about how to use training to reduce fears and overcome challenges. In this episode, Annie discusses, among other things: -Ideas for low stress, easy costumes that most dogs can wear without anxiety. -Acclimating a dog to a costume by creating good associations with it over time. -Teaching your dog to wear costumes made out of muzzles, cones, and other things you actually may want to train him or her to feel okay about wearing. -Noticing stress signals your dog, or other dogs, may display to show their discomfort. Have an idea for an easy, low stress dog costume? Tag us on Instagram, join our Facebook Group, or share it by emailing Podcast@SchoolForTheDogs.com. Notes: The psychological torment of a dog on Halloween - Dog candy corn bandana -  Ty Tag costume - Or make your own - Superhero Bandanas - Cowboy harness costume - Jockey harness costume - Pet Paint - Dog nail polish -  Creative grooming (Vice video produced by Annie) Dog muzzle “costumes” - https://amzn.to/2yHptX6 - https://amzn.to/2yGUrPd - https://amzn.to/2yIs03g - https://amzn.to/2yGUwCv Dog cone “costumes” https://amzn.to/2yE03tw - https://amzn.to/2yE9b1p - Rubie’s “Disney” line of princess costumes et al Make sure to join our Facebook Group! --- Partial Transcript: Annie: Hello human listeners, and dog friends. So I want you to take a moment to imagine a scenario where you are a foreign exchange student and you just arrived in this new country where you don't speak the language. And you've been placed with a family and they're pretty nice to you. You generally like them. You don't understand what's going on a lot of the time, but they're pretty kind to you and they tend to help you figure out what's what, where to be, what to do. And over time you pick up little things here and there and you get really good at just sort of reading situations in order to figure out what's happening. And then one day they take off all your clothing and they don't let you put other clothing on. And they don't seem to be doing this for any kind of sexual reason, but they seem to be getting a real kick out of it. And they begin taking your photo. They take you on a long walk throughout the city. Maybe they even take you to a park where there are a lot of other families who have foreign exchange students who are also naked and they don't speak your language either. And all you can kind of do is look at these other poor souls and feel great empathy and discomfort because everyone around you is staring at you and really enjoying the fact that you are naked. Now you have no idea whether or not they're ever going to give you back your clothes, or if this nudity situation is the new normal. You aren't clear why all of these other foreign exchange students also don't have any clothes... Full Transcript available at SchoolfortheDogs.com/Podcasts

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