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 240: Action and Reaction (Part 2 of 2) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 57:49

Tonight we conclude with the HOW of communicating effectively along with historically useful methods that are no longer effective and some case studies of effective vs. ineffective protests. And we find something that #Occupy was effective at other than being an awareness campaign! Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" o Guest Hosts: Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men 01:02Nick, we need to talk 01:12How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message 01:45Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message 03:51Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest 01:12How you say a message has a lot to do with how people perceive a message 01:45Case study of Scientology with regards to how to communicate a message 03:51Compare/Contrast of effective vs. an ineffective protest 04:45Using a tool for what it's good for 04:45Using a tool for what it's good for 05:46Don't be offensive to the point it's counter-productive to your purpose 06:11Keeping things positive (fighting for something) generally works better in public mindset. 07:17Have a call to action! 06:51Effective protests focus on one central idea, other things can be brought up, but there is one core idea 07:17Have a call to action! 09:59Is your call to action going to be effective? Are you helping others help you? 10:20Is a more appropriate goal: benevolent apathy 10:47Have details! 11:30Have a plan pre-made for influencers to implement 13:06Is this physically possible? 13:57Rant against Occupy with how they do this wrong. 15:17Now exiting: communication 15:21Drama! 17:28Name calling is a bad idea when trying to get something done 18:44Scurvy fulfills a moral obligation to Patheos 19:31Lies and deception as part of your methodologies 22:28How homosexuality got removed from the DSM 20:10Why are historically proven methods failing us now? 20:44Why protests have stopped working 21:36Finally, an example of how Occupy did something right - mass manipulation 22:28How homosexuality got removed from the DSM 23:02Peaceful protests vs. the other type: Occupy 23:27Peaceful != Apathetic 25:00Sacrifice as a part of protest movements? 26:21Beginning the discussion about CEOs here 26:51Maciavelli reference, take a drink. 31:24Why women are not paid as much as other genders 31:57All goes back to effective communication 32:10How Occupy was effective at playing a page out of the proverbial political playbook 34:09Becoming an angry mob turns people against your movement, for example: Occupy 34:49If you are part of/leading a movement, it is your role to take control of the conversation! 36:00MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION 38:17Why Scurvy hates Patheos Pagan Portal 38:54People with single goals 40:34The awesomeness of the Patheos Pagan Portal is overshadowed by derpy lower-management 41:54The most successful protests we see in textbooks had a lot of involvement from local communities - they weren't one large monolithic group. 43:47Apps as a means of effective communication 44:57People are wondering how Pagans (especially Wiccans) are going to help out 50:06Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons 45:37Open Hearth Foundation doing cool stuff to essentially be a Pagan Lobby 46:33Online petitions generate awareness, but what are you doing with that awareness? 46:49Tactics not used by Pagans 47:04Boycotts, and Ed Hubbard's theory 50:06Sometimes Pagans boycott stuff for stupid reasons 51:56Suing the government fading out from common practice among Pagans for national campaigns Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 25 Credits:

 239: Action and Reaction (Part 1 of 2) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:01:16

Tonight we discuss how to get stuff done, how to inspire the masses to assist... how to create civic action in your favor! Part 1: The history of Pagan Activism and the WHO, WHAT, WHEN and WHERE of communications - Part 2 will cover the rest. Oh yeah, and there be a whole lot of highlighting of the ineffectiveness of #Occupy and how we can learn from it Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" o Guest Hosts: Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men 01:31History of activism and civic involvement among Pagans for Pagan stuff 05:38Scurvy joins the show 05:44More modern example of oh crap reactions 06:58Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant 05:38Scurvy joins the show 05:44More modern example of oh crap reactions 06:58Whitehouse online petitions, not quite irrelevant 07:46Want data to sell, start an online petition site! 08:06The benefits of coalitions of Pagan organizations 08:42So you need something big done, how to get it done. 09:05Don't wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof 08:49If you can do it yourself, do it - no need to unnnecessarily draw in people. 09:05Don't wait for permission from the rest of us, and the pros and cons thereof 11:14Be mindful if you are enriching the community or not 13:31Lets be mindful that not all criticism will be critical and informed, but a complete lack of it should be concerning 14:03If you don't want the public talking about the stupid crap you do in public, don't do it in public 14:16Be mindful of when you are a representative of a group 15:59A little less feminist, a little more black panther party 16:25Nothing ever happens with 100% support, just look at Congress 17:34If you build it, people really will come! 18:35What is it that you want? Think about it. 19:20Want to move up in socioeconomic status? Is that your big goal? 19:25Verify your POA (Plan of Action) will work 20:48Your POA probably should not be part of a comedy sketch if you google it 24:24Don't expect us to do anything for you, or a handout. 21:21Marketing is important to any success! But let's clarify marketing. 23:23Moving the rulebook aside to get things done to your benefit 24:11Don't kick people out of your organization that are helping you! 24:24Don't expect us to do anything for you, or a handout. 25:17People need downtime! 25:31Communication: where there is infinite potential for FAIL 26:14Fail resonating to parallel inacarnations :D 26:43Focusing on WHO is communicating the message 27:43Alliance in itself is a form of communication 28:44Members attending other organizations can reflect on your group 31:42Speaking of Jerks... Credibility! 33:27Many communities are small, word spreads fast! 34:40WHAT the heck are you saying? 38:38Step 3: remove the snark. 39:24The secret ingredient to FAIL 43:30WHEN you say something is susprisingly relevant! 44:18WHERE are you trying to communicate to me? 45:18Kony 2012 is a case study of applying everything we are talking about tonight 47:20Trollmaster 9000 48:21How communication could lead to one questioning your integity. 49:54Obligatory Episode 214 reference 55:29Using websites for communication 50:42Coping with copious stupid 51:30For a bunch of people promoting sustainability, many Pagans suck at financial sustainability, but there are examples of those that are good at this. 59:21The effectiveness of The Onion 52:19Flaming Enemas 54:41Scurvy Tangent 55:29Using websites for communication 57:02Hacktivism? 57:38Douchebaggery as a means of communication 59:21The effectiveness of The Onion Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 25 Credits:

 238: Terrorism, a Problem for Pagans? | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 56:16

Time for our annual IPCOD (International Pagan Coming Out Day) episode. This year, we discuss Terrorism as it relates to Paganism. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Nick of The Satyr's Thicket 01:34Don't be a prey animal 01:52Define Terrorism 02:34Bullying vs. Terrorism 03:15Scurvy is a documented time traveler 01:52Define Terrorism 02:34Bullying vs. Terrorism 03:15Scurvy is a documented time traveler 04:24Define Terrorist 04:24Define Terrorist 04:48Scurvy's philosophy of giving opponents the respect they are due. 05:29Why does terrorism work? Do we let ourselves be terrorized? 07:41Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves. 06:20National anxiety disorder 07:41Examples of Terrorism in the context of Paganism and how we can immunize ourselves. 07:58Do not be isolated. 09:34Take control of the situation! 09:44Plan, rather than fear. 09:59Secrets as a means of manipulation 11:06Don't let people hold you being Pagan over your head. 11:40Public outreach by Pagan groups and how it can help, but are they doing a good enough job? 12:42Dealing with the xenophobic reactions of those of other religious paths. 13:10Don't let people's imaginations take control of the situation. 13:50People know when you are hiding something. 14:41Coming out of the closet, how to do it successfully. 15:02Remember, "normal" people are freaked out by what we Pagans do. 17:45Jesus never ate with undesirables? 15:23Procedural issues vs. personal insults 15:47Human Resources, and the balancing act they're forced into. 17:02Is Christmas preferential treatment to some religions? 17:45Jesus never ate with undesirables? 18:11Give people an adjustment period 18:18Be professional with HR 19:49Have honest discussion, be accessible and answer questions in a calm and sane way - don't freak out. 20:40Don Reimer and Ancient Wiccanism 22:47Helplessness complex just fuels emotional BS that lets people terrorize Pagans 23:58No need to hate all of Christianity at all. 24:45How can the Pagan Community immunize itself from terrorism? Examples of terrorism in the Pagan community. 27:54Steps towards immunization 28:20Patheos may save the Pagan community 28:31Diarrahea is an emotion 30:48Neutering Guns and Planes terrorism 31:19Don't just worry about home invasion, plan for it and do your research. 33:56How to not be a target when you have a credible threat 36:03Be good friends with your neighbors 36:41Martial Arts is good for peer advice and training for a variety of situations 37:00Police can be helpful, they do have non-emergency numbers too 37:17Don't forget YouTube and podcasts as a training resource, there's no reason you cannot learn 42:26Texas is a polite society 37:46Seeing a psychologist can be a good idea during a hostile situation. 38:31Environmental awareness 40:09How people generate hostile situations 41:46ROFL @ Pennsylvania 911 42:26Texas is a polite society 42:55What do you do when a situation isn't neutralized for an hour 47:36Roll with the situation if things do not going according to plan Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 23 Credits:

 237: Sleeping Gryphon | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 46:32

We interview Sleeping Gryphon who sells all sorts of cool stuff in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and also on their etsy shop. Regular Hosts:Ashlee, Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam Guest Hosts: Sheri of Sleeping Gryphon, Miles author of Teaching Witchcraft, NRia of Pagan Men 01:24Sherry of Sleeping Gryphon 01:46Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon 02:11From a family of crafters 02:43How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around? 01:46Origin of the name Sleeping Gryphon 02:11From a family of crafters 02:43How long as Sleeping Gryphon been around? 03:14The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon 03:14The type of crafts one can find at Sleeping Gryphon 03:24Wall Art 04:11Inks 09:28Corn husk dolls 05:10Wood Burning 09:28Corn husk dolls 10:59Charm bottles and exploring herbalism 15:15New Products in 2012 15:28Jewelry 16:12Materials used in Jewelry 16:48Making jewelry that can stand up to abuse 17:03Where do the crystals for the jewelry come from? 17:53Embroidery 19:10Soft soaps 19:48Inspiration for all these items 20:55Custom orders: what do you need from a customer to do a custom order? 21:53How much lead time should be given for a custom order? 28:49Describe your ideal customer 23:31Custom bottles 24:56Easier to do do something you were inspired by or custom work inspired by others? 25:47Customer satisfaction of those who suck at giving custom orders 28:49Describe your ideal customer 30:04What can a customer do to help you if they don't know what they want. 32:45Making Art vs. Having a Craft 33:45Sleeping Gryphon is exclusively on Etsy at the moment 34:15Expanding into physical vending 40:24The joy of a first sale to someone one doesn't know Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 23 Credits:

 236: Listener Feedback Fall 2011 | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 56:46

All the questions you asked us in the Fall of 2011 - they're in this episode. Enjoy the potpourri of discussion. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam Guest Hosts: NRia of Pagan Men 01:14We make fun of the accuracy or lack thereof with veterans.com 03:03Amber's acquired NRia-isms 03:29Feedback regarding having entities working with them. 05:30Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations 03:03Amber's acquired NRia-isms 03:29Feedback regarding having entities working with them. 05:30Feedback of a place that has a very negative energy and possible explanations 07:10Some people go through crazy stuff, some just play things up for attention 07:53Remember to not be like episode 86 08:58It's healthy to mistrust to an extent 11:45Christian baggage in Wicca 10:01Skepticism: how are Wiccans different from Christians? 11:45Christian baggage in Wicca 12:15Spiritually immature identity issues 13:33Take care of yourself if you have hate and discontent with where you were prior to where you are now. 14:05Practices between Wiccans and Christians are... different? 14:39Anger or observation? 15:09Wiccans reclaimed many old Christian practices, hence many similarities 16:05General viewpoints of "Paganism" 16:52Attitude of question: looking for a difference? transitioning too fast? 17:33Maybe those of us who are Pagan for a while tone down our experiences from our initial transition periods too much 18:06Are good Wiccans also good Christians? Does this speak to an overlap of the two? 18:42Joe's observation: Why is it so many Wiccans are former Catholics and why do they understand the Bible better than many Christians? 19:20In Catholic practice, metaphysics is deemed evil - Wicca is accepting of it. 20:55Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual 19:34Wicca is the gateway religion, and why this is a case 19:49Quick analysis of the Latin Cross as a Pagan symbol 20:30Much of what we are told is Christian is from a Pagan path of some sort, hence overlap 20:55Advice for items to incorporate into a Samhain ritual 21:51Dave recaps typical Wiccan practice of Samhain 24:12Feedback question: Experiences with the wind as an entity. 26:28First, analyzing if you're insane or not 26:44Established mythology on the subject 28:18Remember you are viewing things from a human perspective and some things may not be translating properly with respect to love 29:54Honoring/worshipping personal patron/matron deities? 30:23Research is a good place to start. 32:28When research may result in getting inaccurate information 33:37Sometimes deities are not that strict, and be mindful that times change 34:00Anubis and Burger King 34:27How you learn how to cook. 35:48Lilith: verifying if a message actually came from her and how to remember a message she sent. 36:41*69 Ritual Advice from Scurvy 37:07Feedback: we want more Pagan Men! Shamanic Wiccans - finding them. 38:29Scurv reacts to having a fan. 38:50Feedback question: deitities visiting the physical plane like it does in some mythological stories. Also, spells etc. from native languages 40:09Remember senses can be manipulated 46:39Can names be non-verbal? 40:29How to do research for ancient Pagan practices in Europe 42:42New Hope, PA reference 48:01People get very upset if you clean their onions. 44:32Post-produce feedback to otherkin ep from YouTube Here 44:41Clarification on our views of Otherkin with regards to true name vs. craft name etc. 46:39Can names be non-verbal? 47:20Difference between unpronouncable vs. non-verbal 47:33Energy signatures can be masked/copied 48:01People get very upset if you clean their onions. 48:38Names again 48:58Crazy of the week 49:18PCP Effect 49:45Firefox for Wiccans? Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned:

 235: Reacting to Being Hurt (Part 2) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 56:43

This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt. This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Nick of The Satyr's Thicket, NRia of Pagan Men 01:20The context of a conflict is very important 01:39Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community. How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question. 02:46How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation 03:52Setting vs. Meeting expectations 01:39Context: Many see the GLBT and Pagan community as a single community. How can something be anti-GLBT and still be Pagan is the implied question. 02:46How other Pagan conferences handle the GLBT situation 03:52Setting vs. Meeting expectations 04:48How does full blown conflict begin? 05:15When individuals engage in conflict, ultimately it is the community that can get hurt 05:38The disappataing sphere of damage 07:11The art of being human is rising above being human 06:42People like taking sides when they become aware of a conflict 07:11The art of being human is rising above being human 07:53Objective observers can be useful in a conflict, become one. 08:46Unintended trolling 09:06Beware Ford-Chevy Debates 09:22Actually filter what you communicate 09:57Wasting stupid amounts of energy on the unwinnable or ultimately irrelevant 11:08What happens if you just have a stubborn person? 12:52If it's put in front of you and you can learn a lesson, do so. 12:59The Racist Paradox: All who hate racists are essentially racists 14:28Hate is a wasted effort, but is needed in small quantities 17:23A lack of critical analysis leading to unnecessary conflict 19:11How does this cost a group of friends? 23:30Making private matters public annoys people 19:32Some people have bad defensive mechanisms, be aware if you are one of these people 20:11Team mentality and conflict and how it causes more damage 22:42Let us know you deal with the derp in your life that you have to deal with, no violence please - joe@PaganCenteredPodcast.com 23:30Making private matters public annoys people 23:45Dragging more people into a conflict is unlikely to result in the conflict resolving to your satisfaction. 24:14Violating trust by means of not adhering to assumptions made about you 24:57Being the better person 25:42Being the better person matters most when you are speaking on behalf of others/an organization 26:32Another example of Scurvy's heavily abusive workplace 27:06Army ten point vets punch people in the back 27:42Don't let people get away with anything, too much compassion makes you a doormat. 28:27If you're going to say you're the better person, actually be the better person! 28:48When is being an ass being the better person? 30:14What about checking back occasionally? 32:25People having a chance to turn things around 33:42Scurv introspects on being hurt personally 35:02Shameless plug for PaganNewsFirehose.com 35:53The evolution of Pagan news towards having 50+ Pagan news articles per day that are interesting 36:39Lessons to learn from having a nervous breakdown 37:36Knowing what you should and should not do 38:07Method for avoiding trollbait 42:18Trust isn't something that if someone violates once, you should dump them. 38:17You are unable to conceal emotional issues 39:07Blacklisting people and permanent vs. temporary 45:56Tactics known not to work in community healing 40:08Thinking too much can create a problem that wasn't there in the first place. 40:43Can you sing? We need you for a PCP Music Video! pcp@PaganCenteredPodcast.com 42:18Trust isn't something that if someone violates once, you should dump them.

 234: Reacting to Being Hurt (Part 1) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 53:40

This is our first recording after Pantheacon Drama Fest 2012 and rather than commenting on the actual events like every other Pagan media outlet we're going to use this as a "teaching moment" for how to cope with being hurt. This is part 1 of a 2 part discussion. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, NRia of Pagan Men 02:20Joe's 2 friends that talked about each other to him and then they ganged up on him. 02:41Joe hates hypocracy 02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay. 03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often. 02:41Joe hates hypocracy 02:50Joe's heuristic: If I might have done that in your situation, then you're okay. 03:10Joe doesn't get emotionally hurt very often. 03:27How Joe is fixing his emotional issues 04:05Community drama is the end result of individuals being hurt 05:03What is Trust? 07:12What is friendship? Are there different types of friends? 06:00Are there different types of trust? 07:12What is friendship? Are there different types of friends? 09:37Community! The context in which friendships occur. 09:53Trust as it relates to friendship, the topic that got Patheos management's panties in a twist 10:23People aren't all good, people aren't all bad 10:53Example of someone you like but do not trust 12:38People you trust but do not like 13:23Joe doesn't blindly like Marines anymore 14:40When capabilities and personalities clash 16:01Having friends you can't afford to be close to anymore 16:54Confronting people you can't be around anymore 17:47Being Hurt, ways of having trust broken 17:58If you you are ever more than 50% sure you are right, you are wrong 20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions 18:27Humans are not made to find truth, they are made to win. 19:29Abuse of trust, one way of having trust broken 20:17Dave has no tolerance for lies 20:37Sharing of secret information is also an abuse of trust, including medical conditions 21:32Using friends for professional gain, see episode 214 21:49Using friends can be a good thing though in some circumstances where they are a willing party 22:30Abusing trust: exceeding boundaries of your friendship 22:45Abusing trust: forced physical activity 23:04Abusing trust: forced insertion into awkward social situation 24:01Laughter as strees release 24:30Pushing people slightly outside their boundaries can be good, pushing very far can be bad 27:43Trollbait 28:01Define trollbait 28:48Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as it relates to trolling 29:30DO NOT GO TO 4CHAN 30:03Example of Epic Trolling 31:22South Park as it relates to Z. Budapest 35:53How are the genetic requirements being enforced? 37:22Pagan Men obligatory ad 38:18How do we deal with people that break trust with us? 39:03What about friends who have had trust broken with them? 43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen? 39:42Don't make yourself stupid in the face of strong evidence 40:08Feel welcome to leave from being between two friends 45:53Derpiness example 40:48Case Study: LA Riots 41:41Emotional but justified response 43:20The ultimate destruction of community: riots - how do they happen? 45:27People lose their checks and balances when they lose their doubt 45:37Derp and emotional rage 45:53Derpiness example 46:30Reductio ad adsurdum for gender-specific rituals 47:52Genetic requirements? There better be genetic testing! 48:53Time helps with conflict, and most people thought this cis vs. trans conflict was resolved 49:23Are women more discriminatory against trans than men? 49:55Expecting Pagan leaders to grow balls? 50:13Z Budapest is not alone, but the way Pantheacon handled the situation was poor. Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned:

 233: Pagans Want Predators (Part 2) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:08:57

Tonight we conclude our discussion on topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away. This we go into how both Pagans and the law protect proven and known predators. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer! 01:13Scurv recaps the situation 02:13Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior 02:58Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators 03:28Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior 02:13Community passive endorsement of predatory behavior 02:58Pagans wanting to heal known confirmed sexual predators 03:28Pagan Pride Day and their endorsement of predatory behavior 04:43Contingent of a Pagan community wanted an admitted Seuxal Predator to do childrens workshops at Pagan Pride Day 05:30Scurvy thought exercise 06:29Sexual predators who are recovering have a prescribed regimen of things to do and not do to recover. 07:46Magic bullet of love is irresponsible 07:12Predators that handle their problem responsibly 07:46Magic bullet of love is irresponsible 08:05Actually taking a risky position vs. the sheep that just want to follow the winning team 08:37The failure of Pagans to realize they are passively endorsing the rape of little children 08:59Skirting around lible/slander laws protecting known predators 09:41Reputation is important! There's a reason the Asatru are such a PITA about this! 10:16Combination of Pagans who are Pagan for non-conformity's sake & people not wanting to be wrong. 11:36Be the change you want to see 12:36If a person raises a red flag here, should we see if they've raised red flags elsewhere? 13:18Vetting 14:39When it is appropriate to vet someone? 17:45Role of a parole officer 18:05Knowing when you have not thought this through 20:53Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes 18:43What are Priestess Wings? 19:08Trying to not have sexual predators in a community whose foundation includes writings including rape and incest 20:23Confused and sticky in a jail cell in Tiajuana 20:53Hypocracy of Pagan sexual attitudes 24:31Pagan Groupthink 24:55Exponging "Penn State Syndrome" from the Pagan Community 25:22Christians are out to get us - is it largely self-imposed (for most, admittedly not all)? 28:01The "We must accept everyone" philosophy 29:00The Dave Test 30:30Truth is sensational enough, media dosn't need to sensationalize on top of it 31:09The bigger the mistakes you let someone get away with, the bigger the mistakes that person will make 33:06Establish a relationship with law enforcement regardless of how much you don't want to 35:41Pagans are afraid of interacting with local law enforcement 36:37How local Pagans handled Don Reimer talking to the local Police, things to learn from it 38:26Law Enforcement relationships give the biggest impact 39:37Where has Peter Dybing been? 39:48Can Pagans work with Pagan law enforcement? 40:08Is Officers of Avalon hurting the situation or is this not really their place? 41:46Southern Poverty Law Center 42:20Pagan leaders NEED to establish PERSONAL relationships with law enforcement, don't rely on entities at this point. 42:56Police isn't just about crime 44:44Do not passively endorse, elaboration. 43:33Community building with the police 43:55Living in our communities as Pagans 46:17Be ready to be incorrect, but doubt is not an excuse for inaction 44:13Be part of your community, and that includes having a relationship with the police department. 44:32Good relations with the police is an excellent predator repellant 44:44Do not passively endorse, elaboration. 45:31If you can't work through the back channels, then work in public in a non-libelous non-dramatic way 46:07Draw attention to the problem 46:17Be ready to be incorrect, but doubt is not an excuse for inaction

 232: Pagans Want Predators (Part 1) | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 50:42

Tonight we begin to discuss the topic of Pagans being too polite to tell predators to go away. In fact, we highlight how Pagans actually attract predators through their organizations, organizational structure and poor community relations. Regular Hosts:Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm not here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Myst, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer! 01:45Definition of Sexual Predator 03:11Brandan Myers' statement of community sexual abuse 03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards 03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice 03:11Branden Myers' statement of community sexual abuse 03:27Pagans don't have as many taboos, but we do have some standards 03:47Need to clarify what is or is not Pagan practice 04:28Gruesome murder of Wiccan woman by allegedly Wiccan male 04:57Don Reimer is dead! 05:21Back on topic so folks don't go Don Reimer on us 08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration 06:35Drama surrounding the statement 08:11People agreeing with the statement, but disagreeing that someone was making the declaration 09:09The importance of basic overviews to law enforcement etc. 09:50Community sexual statement as a public overview 10:38People will abuse lack of knowledge/misinformation to their advantage 10:57Pagan community paints a target on itself for predators to find 11:37Predators know they can abuse Pagans without much retribution 12:11Solidarity, when it goes too far 12:54Predators vs. brotherhood 13:33Pagans are gunshy as a result of intolerance they have experienced that they do not want to express any intolerance to predatory behavior 14:42Anyone using the phrase "witch war" is full of derp. 15:12Adults telling parents they don't need to tell their parents about XYZ is a warning sign 16:26Counteract weirdness with transparency 19:01Brainhurt goes here. 16:56Coven membership paperwork having a clause that they are not affiliated with any law enforcement agency 17:38Being a predator using a religion to cloak one's actions and portray them as normal etc. vs. sincerely practicing a religion 18:34Covens effectively promoting 28 year olds having sex with 5 year olds. 19:01Brainhurt goes here. 19:37My penis says we're soulmates 20:07Pagans leaving groups because of members preventing statutory rape. 22:50This all highlights that the drama surrounding the community sex statement is not caused by Patheos, and that's a bit sad. 23:51When one's decision making processess are impaired due to metaphysics 27:52Deity and Trust, Deities have too much free time. 28:10The news story that triggered our many months long research into this topic 29:34Penn State child sex scandal 30:35@AngryBlackLady reference 31:28How people justify this crap and why the slutwalk movement is needed 32:34You MUST be wrong! I'll make up a reason! 32:56Woman who went crazy because people are naturist 33:38Nudity != sexual 34:26The culture has so many hangups that they have so many more problems dealing with issues in a healthy way 34:40People being unable to cope with issues in a healthy way cannot handle the fruits and nuts in a healthy way 35:00We don't NEED to stick together anymore 35:38I don't mind being embarassed being seen with you in public, but I don't want to go to jail for being seen with you in Pagan 35:58Clarification on the Pagans don't need eachother anymore comment from a few minutes ago 39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level 36:17Time for quality control in our communities 36:54The ABCDEF 45:31Library promoting this predatory behavior as a means of being more accepting of Pagans. 37:17Summary of the early draft of the statement. 38:59If you are afraid of something, you probably shouldn't do it 39:41Tacking spirituality onto the coersion is evil on a whole new level

 231: Tarot 101 | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:02:55

Tonight we're going through the 101 of giving Tarot readings from what is a Tarot reading from picking a deck to what types of spreads are out there (and what is a spread), etiquette and more to know before you give your first reading. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagan News Firehose, Joe "the Moody Pagan" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Dustin, NRia of Pagan Men 01:25Why do people do Tarot? 03:13Define: Tarot Reading 03:30Define: Spread 03:44Define: Reader 03:13Define: Tarot Reading 03:30Define: Spread 03:44Define: Reader 04:11Define: Querant 04:11Define: Querant 04:29Tarot uses cards 04:52French Tarot vs. Oracle Cards 05:54Minor Arcana 05:28North American vs. European use of Tarot Cards 05:54Minor Arcana 06:29Terminology of the cards can vary among decks 06:55Tarot suits, often associated with the 4 elements 07:46General meanings of the different suits/elements 08:17Why it's bad for someone to interpret someone else's deck they're not familiar with 08:53Symbolism varies significantly among decks, there's a deck for everyone 09:40How to find the deck for me? Aeclectic Tarot - aeclectic.net 11:01Minor arcana often address the everyday items 11:23Generic meanings of the minor arcana cards 14:12What does Arcana mean? 14:22The role of the Major Arcana 16:00Significance of the roman numerals on Major Arcana cards? 20:07When should someone get a deck? 17:40Major Arcana are important 18:08Pastoral Counseling 19:21The use of Tarot in pastoral counseling 20:07When should someone get a deck? 21:10Emotional maturity in Tarot 22:25Superstitions surrounding buying a tarot deck 23:25Is there such a thing as a beginner deck? No! 26:15Some things can do more complex and complicated things, but that does not differentiate beginner vs. experienced 27:23Tarot is entirely in-depth, there is no paint-by-numbers version of Tarot 28:03Different decks want to be used in different ways 29:03Close friends/family can often be very helpful in selecting your first deck for you. 29:35Use an existing deck first before making your own deck 29:59Tarot as a tool for professionals, a contraversial stance 30:53Remember, Tarot artwork is symbolic, not just pretty 31:36How a tarot reader should walk into a tarot reading done by someone else. 32:41Dave's readings not making sense to him until the end 34:11Shuffling Tarot cards, the debates 36:39Cutting of the cards and who should or should not handle the cards 39:53Spreads 40:54How to get started 41:44Becoming familiar with cards 47:34Can Tarot readings be done over the internet? 43:29Tarot will drain you at first 45:40Refining your practice 52:50Debate surrounding charging for readings 46:12How do we make our readings more accurate? 47:03Looking at the future directly then using divining tools as a filter 47:34Can Tarot readings be done over the internet? 49:13Etiquette, for giving readings 50:52Communicate to the querant! 52:50Debate surrounding charging for readings 54:12In the world of metaphysics, you don't always get what you pay for 55:21Donation and Tarot 56:00Money being insulting 56:24Charging as a means of maintaining the respectful nature of readings 57:31Denying refunds Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 23 Credits:

 230: Frockfollies! | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 59:40

Tonight we talk to Gill, an amazing artist in the UK that makes many Pagan-friendly items including handfasting dresses! Regular Hosts:Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm Here" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam Guest Hosts: Gill of Frockfollies, Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Miles who wrote The Green Prince's Father, NRia of Pagan Men 01:00Wheres Amber 01:42Who is Gill 02:28Its a nice day for a white wedding 02:52Lets start at the very beginning 01:42Who is Gill 02:28Its a nice day for a white wedding 02:52Lets start at the very beginning 04:24Working in period garb 04:24Working in period garb 07:25Shameless Plug 07:46Starting out and Inspirations 11:52Styles of Sewing 09:45Fashion Engineering 11:52Styles of Sewing 14:19Custom Sizing 16:47For the gentlemen 19:02Couture 21:09Bridezilla 23:53The Pagan Community 27:56Talismans 30:11How to order a dress 33:54Using Period Cloth 36:54Fittings 37:49what is your favorite time period 40:21Preservation 45:44most difficult part 40:49what kind of fabrics are used 42:35Steampunk 44:26Innovations 45:44most difficult part 46:33Favorite Part 51:20Movement 54:27Just for fun 56:50Going overseas 58:19Renting out dresses 58:58Goodbye Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 23 Credits:

 229: Dangers of Positive-Only Teaching | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 1:06:51

Tonight we're talking about the dangers of teaching methods that only emphasize the positive and fail to cover uncomfortable or negative aspects of a particular topic. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I am a Pagan" of Pagan Roadtrip, Sam Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!, NRia of Pagan Men 02:33How this got started on the PCP radar 02:58Joe is a Moody Pagan 03:05What is Positive-Only Teaching? 03:52Positive-Only Reiki Teaching 02:58Joe is a Moody Pagan 03:05What is Positive-Only Teaching? 03:52Positive-Only Reiki Teaching 04:15All Energy is Good 04:15All Energy is Good 04:54Burn your plastic Jesus, the Christian equivalent of PCP! 05:49Kids claiming to be Reverands 06:41All lint, no sweater 06:04Wikipedia vs. Encyclopedia Dramatica 06:41All lint, no sweater 06:57The Positivity Police! 07:16Pimp yo' head dreads = no no, dread is a bad word 08:11Hello vs. Heaven-O in Michigan 08:53Hellenic vs. Heavenenic 09:37Are the positivity police very well off or just psychotic? 10:38Positivity police have the belief that they don't need to care about anything because the university always automatically provides for them 11:06Dangers of Positive-Only teaching: Occupy Wall Street 11:31Name it and claim it theology 12:15Some of the positive-only types have something from their past to hide like raping babies 12:54Some people want a reason for why the universe is unfair 13:26Positive-only folks get 2 parts of psychology very wrong 14:47Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused. 13:47Learning from mistakes, or not. 14:06Positive-only thinking is an extreme application of the law of attraction 14:20Balance vs. one-sidedness 14:47Case study of someone who embraced The Secret and the problems it caused. 15:33Positive-only thinkers are often in denial. 16:06People look for perfection 16:18The absence of negativity is not positive 16:43Making peace with what others believe vs. constantly going "we're not evil" to convince themselves and everyone around them. 17:16Anger, managed properly, tells you when something is not cool. 17:39An absence of negativity allows for people to do dumb things in front of you. 18:34Many believe that if you teach only positive things and never teach fear or negativity then people wont get hurt because fear causes people to be hurt. 19:05Positive-only thinking seeds bad coping skills 19:18It was meant to be 19:43Karma as an excuse 20:25Optimism doesn't allow for preparation for negative outcomes 20:38Pessimism denies us the joys we could get from little things. 20:57It's all about your mindset. 21:21Chilrens books are positive-only so they can focus on helping the child read with simple concepts without going into depth about the topics about which they are reading. 22:18Positive-only thinking/teaching results in a childish view of the world, without understanding the depth of the topics one encounters. 23:09Bright Sided, How Positive Thinking is Undermining America 23:22Mandatory positive thinking 26:42Canadians aren't even THAT positive 23:31Planning (e.g. taking an umbrella) will cause failure in the mindset of positive-only thinkers. 23:53Positive-only thinkers are the reason for Hitler's successes j/k 28:14I disagree with them, thus they are not Pagan = result of Positive-Only Thinking 24:18Use of umbrellas shows a lack of faith in oneself and one's gods thus showing an immaturity in your practice 25:59Positive-only thinkers want to eliminate hardships by way of eliminating negativity from teaching (believing negativity can be bred out) thus creating a utopia without hardships or coping 26:42Canadians aren't even THAT positive 27:19Positive-only thinkers have no realistic perception of the world around them and thus cannot be successful.

 228: PanGia Store | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 57:49

Tonight we're talking about PanGaia store, how it's not like most general-purpose Pagan shops you know and why they're just so full of WIN. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "I'm Here" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!, NRia of Pagan Men and Sarah of PanGia Metaphysical Store 01:13Who are the folks behind PanGaia Store? 03:47Spare time? 04:10Inspiration 05:45Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft! 03:47Spare time? 04:10Inspiration 05:45Yay, not FrontPage by Microsoft! 06:18Building a website by doing the right searches. 06:18Building a website by doing the right searches. 06:36Determining products to carry 06:52Startup costs for a physical store 08:43The godfather of Nebraska Pagans 08:00Benefits of starting with a web store 08:43The godfather of Nebraska Pagans 09:04Family involvement 09:53Artisans interested in selling wares in your shop, how should they contact you? 10:31info@pangaiastore.com 10:53SOPA and PIPA blackout 13:33Hunting season and how it can impat Pagan stores 14:32Runic creations by Phil 15:14Not in it just for the money. 15:52Reasonable pricing 17:13Classes 17:55Underwater Basketweaving Classes? 18:09Tarot and Oracle Readings and Past Life Regressions 21:28Interesting things to learn 19:40What does Sarah enjoy most about what she does? 19:54The introduction of tarot decks into their stock 21:14Getting the perspective of what's interesting to Pagans 21:28Interesting things to learn 21:37The potential for a Pagan store to be generic. 22:10Generic stores are a result of a greed for money? 22:25Stores about joy of Pagan community vs. money. 22:42Sarah tries to not be insulting. 22:53Newbies doing the same thing every other newbie has done because they are exposed to the same stuff. 23:10You have to be involved with the Pagan community to break out of this generic mold, and have a store with individual touches. 24:47PanGaia Store looks for product that takes them out of the generic mold. 25:17Story of a person retiring out of running a Pagan Store. 25:36Pagan stores not wanting to carry vodoo items. 26:27PanGaia Store - for the things you usually have to wait for an annual festival for. 27:11Quality of product, not just price. 29:08Get-r-done gal vs. social stud 30:18Pagan musicians live a Pagan lifestyle 30:40Dave meets all the BNPs when he dies. 31:25How does it all work when PanGaia Store Vends 33:41Ceramic screenprinting 34:11yeah it called you... with A BILL! 38:39Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs 34:44Artists are harder to impress sometimes. 35:04Attention to detail. 40:35When will the transition to physical store happen? 36:14Having a range of products 37:28Sarah the Introvert 38:39Cleansing the vending area and other metaphysical stuffs 39:20PanGaia Store keep getting invited to Anime Cons and such. 39:36Beef Jerkey is what you should give Sarah if you see her vending. 40:35When will the transition to physical store happen? 42:17PCP continues to brainstorm ideas on making PanGaia Store a physical store 44:46All the stuff the PanGaia Store folks do. 46:54Aversion to spare time 48:15PanGaiaStore.com 48:24blogtalkradio.com/pagan-musings Credits Post-produced by: Dave List of resources used or mentioned: PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License. Season 23 Credits:

 227: Advanced Healing Tactic | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 59:15

This week we assume you know the basics of energy work and discuss advanced healing tactic. Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Branden of Pagan Men, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), Joe "Scurvy Dog" of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Snooze Possum of Hedgehog Stole My Beer!. 01:18We assume you know the basics now 01:47What to do when someone has a minor medical issue? 02:41Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions 03:42Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic 01:47What to do when someone has a minor medical issue? 02:41Treating both spiritual and physical problems, ask the gagillion questions 03:42Grounding as a catch-all healing tactic 04:53Absorbing Healers 04:53Absorbing Healers 05:04Scurvy doesn't get headaches, just gives things. 05:17Pain thresholds are different among people. 06:24Dealing with serious medical issues 05:37Hydration is good 06:24Dealing with serious medical issues 07:06Hospital-grade crazy glue and duct tape 07:14Use all of your resources 08:04Don't do what Scurvy does 08:16What if you need stitches? 08:48Stores you can and cannot walk into while bleeding profusely. 10:12Getting fixed automatically while sitting in the ER waiting room 10:29Never stop bleeding when you are in the ER (ER 101) 10:57Doctors are people, and some people suck at life. 11:18Long-term medical issues, treating metaphysically. 12:07Metaphysics works better when used in conjunction with even minimal medical knowledge. 12:25Going from what the person thinks the issue is to what the issue actually is. 15:04Healing energies can harm easily! 13:32Generic 101 of just sending healing energy randomly vs. advanced tactic 14:15Medical knowledge is needed with advanced healing metaphysically. 14:40When in doubt, chicken out when it comes to healing and energy workings. 15:04Healing energies can harm easily! 15:47Do not proceed unless this is an area of your expertise 16:17Feeding energy to those doing active healing work if you aren't yet this skilled as a way of contributing meaningfully 18:30Tactic: Single-contact healing 19:12Working in a construct 20:56Tactic: Time-release energy release with multiple trigger events 23:49Entities to watch over the progression of healing 24:24Entities that actually do the healing 25:19Healing has causality issues, and can cause worse things. 25:57Be aware of a person's shielding/metaphysical self-maintenance stuff when healing them 26:58Otherkin, and not responding well to healing energies 27:31Do not half-ass your healing 28:11Use a safe word 28:43Order of healing things 30:27People that heal by taking things within themselves 31:50Spitting/Sucking Shamans 33:13Everyone works on a different level with regards to healing, one medicine man would be willing to call upon another medicine man to assist someone 33:43Remember you are working with a living person that is going through pain until you can figure stuff out, get someone else who can help. 35:16Don't promise to heal people. Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you're a healer. 34:10Take your time with healing 34:27Assess before you START the healing process and test things out before starting. 36:41Having a metaphysical healing checklist 34:43You break things by being haphazard 34:52Metaphysical healing, the traditional healing style 35:16Don't promise to heal people. Also, being an empath does not necessarily mean you're a healer. 35:46Don't promise to do something and you find yourself in over your head, it creates problems for you, them and everyone else involved. 36:18You can seriously screw people up at this point, preparation is good - plan, take responsibility etc. 36:41Having a metaphysical healing checklist 36:47Follow up after your working, monitor them for a while - a month if possible. 37:16Investigate why your healing got rejected.

 226: Oak Myth | File Type: audio/mpeg | Duration: 47:07

This week we explore the exciting world of cool masks made by Oak Myth! Regular Hosts:Amber of Red Tail Arts, Dave of Pagans promoting Healthy Active Tendencies (PHAT), "Normal" Joe of Pagan Roadtrip Guest Hosts: Amanda, Barrett of Pagan Men, Ashley of Oak Myth 01:17Normal intros, name, location, what does your shop do? 01:32How did you two first meet up? 01:58Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own? 02:47You two didn't become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together? 01:32How did you two first meet up? 01:58Did either of you have any professional training or learn all on your own? 02:47You two didn't become friend till later, but how long have you guys been working together? 03:00What do you ladies do while you're not working on masks? 03:00What do you ladies do while you're not working on masks? 03:25What are/did you ladies go to school for? 03:52One of the things you ladies mentioned in our early correspondences was that you were both pagan. Can you go into your paths and how you relate it to your mask work? 05:12What about you Ashley? How was the religious upbrining? 04:53Eve, with your mom being Faerie, you grew up in the path? 05:12What about you Ashley? How was the religious upbrining? 05:42Can you talk about how you came up with the name OakMyth for your shop? 06:08Did you start selling on Etsy? 06:15Ashlee and Eve talk about their first time vending at Faerie Worlds 07:11Was there anything else that inspired you guys to work on masks in specific? 08:08What was the very first mask you did together? 08:48What are the favorite pieces that you have made? 09:30Ashley and Eve talk about their balance of lunar and solar. 09:45What are the hardest masks you have made? 10:16Amanda Eve asks a question: People wear personality masks, was that an inspiration of your mask making or do you seek to inspire with your creations? 11:26Faerie Worlds can be awesome to let out the "inner you" 12:18OakMyth has had several people that get drawn to their masks becaues they feel kinship to them 13:51Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process? 12:32Do you ladies get a lot of people trying to get specific commission pieces? 13:00We start talking about commission pieces and how people seem to disappear after starting with the process 13:27OakMyth shares two of the most pleasing commission pieces, one a wolf and one a phoenix. 13:51Talking with Ashley, you do most of the design, can you tell us a little on your process? 14:27Does the color of the mask come before you start or after it's been tooled? 14:51Does the design work ever change partially through? 15:09Do changes often happen? 15:20How much work actually goes into the leather once it gets into your hands? 15:32They talk a bit about how big the cow hide is when they get it. 16:208oz leather takes a lot of working! 16:34About how many masks can you get out of a cow hide? 17:09How do you mold them to fit facial features? 17:45We talk about how the masks fit and the alterations that are possible for fitting. 18:27We talk a bit about the paint surviving reshaping. 18:44What is the hardest thing to get the leather to do? 19:26Are the horns on the dragon mask hard to do? 19:54Barrett asks if someone sculpting a beak for your maniquin would help with creating a beak. 20:18Some of the work depends on what kind of leather you use; 8oz vs 4oz 20:59What are the time differences between simple and complex masks with just the leather work? 21:43What is considered a complex design to do with just the leather work aspect of it. 22:50We ask what makes the forest masks so difficult to create. 25:28Painting the leather, and then shaping...doesn't work well 23:41We talk about the painting process of mask making, is there anything you have to do to prep the mask before starting? 24:06What kind of paints do you use to paint on the leather?

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